Talk:List of Super Nintendo Entertainment System games

Barbie: Vacation Adventure

This game is not listed. Link. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 94.44.255.34 (talk) 12:52, 3 November 2016 (UTC)

• I've added it, whoever you are. I hope they keep it, there's no reference.184.8.94.4 (talk) 06:10, 9 April 2018 (UTC)
• From what I can gather, it was cancelled at the last minute so it was never released, thus why it's not on the list. 67.168.160.106 (talk) 22:41, 1 August 2018 (UTC)

Tinstar

This game made it to wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tin_Star_(video_game) but I didnt find it on search — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2600:6C51:7001:200:B131:D1FA:FDC1:5C91 (talk) 12:33, 22 January 2019 (UTC)

How do I add "Hourai Gakuen no Bouken" to the list?

Title says.Joeleoj123 (talk) 02:17, 22 January 2017 (UTC)

• That goes on List of Super Famicom games 184.8.94.4 (talk) 06:58, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

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Region exclusive numbers

"Of the console's 783 official releases, 721 were exclusive to North America and 62 to Europe." What? This makes it sound as if there are no games released in both NA and EU, and that there were only 62 games total released in Europe. There should be a count of games released in both regions, and a different number for games (actually) exclusive to North America.

Merger proposal

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I suggested this a little over a year ago at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games, and now I'm finally getting around to the actual proposal. I propose that List of Super Famicom games and List of Super Comboy games be merged into this article. The Super Nintendo Entertainment System, Super Famicom, and Super Comboy are all just different names for the same thing, so having these three separate articles misleads the reader, unnecessarily triples the maintenance work required, and forces readers who want to know something as basic as which regions a game without its own article was released in to cross-check three articles. The merged article may be on the large side (though not so much as you might think once the redundancies between the lists have been eliminated), but if the article is to be split it makes much more sense to do it as an alphabetical split (like List of PlayStation games (A–L)) than to present a single subject as three different subjects.--Martin IIIa (talk) 12:50, 29 March 2018 (UTC)

• Support merge - I was also in favor of making these into one list back a little over a year ago. I agree that if the list ends up too long, splitting it alphabetically would be best. Calathan (talk) 17:35, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
• Support merge - I would favour a merge, but there are few things to consider:

1. Some games had different publishers for different regions, such as Prince of Persia which was published by NCS in Japan and Konami in North America

2. Some games were released in different regions on separate dates. Prince of Persia was released in July 3, 1992 for the Super Famicom and in November 1, 1992 for the SNES.

3. Games that were released only in Japan were only released for the Super Famicom and not the SNES equivalent. Like the Playstation list, region release should be indicated.

4. Japanese versions of some games have different titles from the European or North American versions, such as "Demon's Crest" which is called "Demon's Blazon Makaimura Monshō-hen" in Japan

I think we can give the merged list a similar treatment to the List of PlayStation games and remove the Genre and North American Release Date columns from the list. Deltasim (talk) 16:27, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

I think points 1-4 are more than adequately addressed in existing video game lists, the PlayStation list being just one example. In fact point 4 is one of the reasons why I think having separate lists for Japanese releases and North American/European releases interferes with readers' access to information, since they can't look up the same game in both lists unless it was released under the same title in both regions.--Martin IIIa (talk) 14:43, 3 April 2018 (UTC)

Point 4 would just be WP:COMMONNAME, which would be the English title for 95% of the games. ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 10:24, 7 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support merge - It simply makes sense. Three lists for this is excessive. Lee Vilenski ^{(talk • contribs)} 13:28, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support merge - The question is who is willing to do it? TarkusAB^talk 13:40, 6 April 2018 (UTC)

@TarkusAB: - I was planning to do it myself. Though there's no policy or guideline that says this must be so, it seems like usually the one who proposes a merge performs it.--Martin IIIa (talk) 12:31, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

• Support And would personally appreciate if you follow the basic layout of recent lists like List of Nintendo Switch games, List of PlayStation 4 games and List of Xbox One games. I think we should talk about a small MOS guideline for platform lists soon. -- ferret (talk) 13:41, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support and also agree with Ferret. I'm willing to do it, but only after the PS3 game list is fixed (still waiting on the sort script). ~ Dissident93 ^(talk) 21:50, 6 April 2018 (UTC)
• Do not support First off they are different systems that look completely different and have different names. Second, there are 1400+ Super Famicon games vs. 700+ Super Nintendo games. It will make the list way too clutered with Japanese exclusive games for a NA reader trying to find Super Nintendo titles. Dilute13 (talk) 18:32, 7 April 2018 (UTC)
  • @Dilute13 I have changed the table to show all three regions. That's the first step. I'm wondering if I should remove the titles from the Super Famicom that weren't exclusive. Deltasim (talk) 08:16, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
• Oppose Merge First off, This looks like a solution in search of a problem. There's never been an issue with separate articles. Second, the "merged" article would be too long and convoluted. Splitting the article alphabetically would create more problems since those readers searching for just an SNES or just a Super Famicom game would have to search over multiple articles and pages to find a specific title. Many computers have "Keyword" searches to find specific types of games, ie: just "Mario" games, or just "Baseball" games. Right now we can do that at a single article. Why create several articles that are separated alphabetically? That would just cause more havoc and make any search take longer. Lastly, these games are and were created differently. Yes many are technically the same games, but they were not created equally. Each system was created to serve a certain region. Keeping separate articles will have much of the same information repeated, but that shouldn't be a concern, since each article is designed to cater to a different reader.--JOJ ^Hutton 11:19, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
  • Addendum I wouldn't, however, be opposed to the "Super Cowboy" article being merged. Whether here at this article or at the Super Famicom list.--JOJ ^Hutton 11:25, 8 April 2018 (UTC)
• Support I feel that we should merge them. They are the regional counterparts to the Super Nintendo, after all. 184.8.94.4 (talk) 04:51, 9 April 2018 (UTC)

I would also like to point out that the games aren't all the same for both consoles. For instance, there's a "Casper" game for both consoles but they're entirely different games made by different companies. There are likely other situations like this and that would make it awkward when organizing them. Dilute13 (talk) 03:57, 11 April 2018 (UTC)

As a collector who uses this page constantly, I'm worried that merging the two pages will basically make this article too big and useless. And then immediately suggest splitting the article alphabetically into other articles is laughable. The idea was to merge articles. If we are going to have the same number of articles then why not just leave them they way they are now?--JOJ ^Hutton 03:08, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

I don't think we'll actually need to do a split; I just pointed out that if we need to do a split, it would make much more sense to do it the same way other such split lists do it, rather than a way which confuses the reader and makes the information less accessible. The rest of your posts suggests that you neglected to read the proposal before replying to it, since all of your objections are already answered there.

Dilute13 - Having separate articles just to accommodate games like Casper would be extreme overkill, and in any case specifically having "List of Super NES games", "List of Super Famicom games", and "List of Super Comboy games" wouldn't solve that issue. See the Fact Hunt episodes on these games.--Martin IIIa (talk) 12:21, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

Why do you assume that since I disagree with your proposal, that I must not have read it properly? I read what you wrote, I just disagree with your logic and reasoning. If all I’m looking for are SNES games that work only with an SNES and will not work on a Super Famicom and vice versa, then I should be able to have separate articles to look that up on and not have to decipher what can and cannot be played on either system. Also, many of these games were region locked back then. Many modern games are not. Especially CD based games. So the Playstation example doesn’t work here.JOJ ^Hutton 16:26, 12 April 2018 (UTC)

"Why do you assume that since I disagree with your proposal, that I must not have read it properly?" I don't. As I clearly stated above, your response consisted of objections already addressed by the proposal.

"If all I’m looking for are SNES games that work only with an SNES and will not work on a Super Famicom and vice versa, then I should be able to have separate articles to look that up on and not have to decipher what can and cannot be played on either system." Odd that you would bring up this purpose, since it's yet another one for which the proposed merge would work and the current system does not. As already noted, games were often released under different titles in different regions, so under the current system the reader has no way of confirming whether or not a game released in one region was released in another. In contrast, the individual lists used for every other console ever released use tables which can be sorted by region of release with a click of the mouse.--Martin IIIa (talk) 23:56, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

• Oppose In view of the discussion that has taken place so far, I'm reconsidering my support for the merge. Instead I have a few propositions. Having removed all the Super Famicom games that were released outside Japan and combining all Japanese names with the non-exclusive SNES games, there are a few other edits that can take place.

Firstly the List of Super Comboy games can be removed now that I have marked them on both SNES and Super Famicom lists. You may wish to improve them if you don't think they are clear enough, such as noting that they were released in Korea which amounts to the same thing.

Secondly the Cancelled SNES games could be placed elsewhere. Out of all the Nintendo platforms, the SNES list is the only one to show cancelled games. In the Nintendo navigation section, there should be a separate list titled "List of Cancelled Nintendo Games" with games that were cancelled for Nintendo consoles and handhelds. I have prepared that list, but it will take a lot of work to reference them. I would also suggest a similar treatment to the unlicensed SNES games. If a cancelled list works for Nintendo, it can be introduced to other system brands. Deltasim (talk) 17:02, 16 April 2018 (UTC)

I don't follow what your objection is. Do you not acknowledge that the Super Nintendo Entertainment System and the Super Famicom are the same console? Do you support splitting Super Nintendo Entertainment System into two separate articles, Super Nintendo Entertainment System and Super Famicom?--Martin IIIa (talk) 00:01, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

Region is the only real difference between the two consoles. However the Super Famicom list has games that were exclusively released in Japan and nowhere else. If you find the merge a good idea, would you propose the same for the NES and Famicom lists? Deltasim (talk) 06:30, 17 April 2018 (UTC)

I don't know how I overlooked it, but I didn't know until now that we also have separate NES and Famicom lists. Yes, I'd support merging those as well.--Martin IIIa (talk) 18:41, 20 May 2018 (UTC)

I second that, Martin! 50.127.188.202 (talk) 01:18, 24 May 2018 (UTC)

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Number of games doesn't add up

The article says there are 721 officially licensed games in North America, but the table only lists 719 games as being released there. What gives? Is the 721 number wrong or are there 2 games that aren't listed? — Preceding unsigned comment added by 76.182.56.128 (talk) 00:18, 5 May 2018 (UTC)

You don't say how you got the count of 719 games. Without knowing that, it's impossible to determine the cause of the discrepancy.--Martin IIIa (talk) 15:28, 2 June 2018 (UTC)

There really are 721 North American Super NES games (including Star Fox 2 and if you count Tetris and Dr. Mario as 2 separate games), just as there are really 673 North American NES games (if you count Short Order and Eggsplode! as 2 separate games).--Nate-Dawg921 (talk) 16:50, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Merge coming

Just a note to assure everyone that yes, I am going to perform the merge. Right now I'm working on a draft of the merge cleanup in my sandbox so that I can publish the post-merge cleanup edit immediately after the merge itself. Putting the merged content into the correct format for this article, deleting all the redundancies, and shuffling the games together into alphabetical order takes a lot of work, so be patient. I should have it done by June 1, probably earlier.--Martin IIIa (talk) 22:11, 29 May 2018 (UTC)

Phew! Finally done. I ask everyone to look over the newly-merged article and make sure everything is correctly in place. In particular, while doing the post-merge cleanup I noticed that Deltasim had overlooked a ton of Japanese releases which also came out in North America and/or Europe (I lost count at 15!), so any Super NES experts on Wikipedia should check and make sure that there aren't any games which are still listed twice.--Martin IIIa (talk) 18:24, 31 May 2018 (UTC)

PAL variants, multiple release dates, etc.

I'm not entirely sure what to do with this information as such (especially given how incomplete the release dates already are for PAL games), but PAL games in my experience came in multiple releases for different languages. As a random example, Terranigma had both an English language release and a German language release and these are separate cartridges, and for many games this is quite common. Also PAL region release dates aren't always consistent, especially with the non-european regions such as Australia (which was frequently behind on Europe)/ While considerably less relevant, packaging also varies widely by country even for what is otherwise the same release. For instance I have owned many dutch games over the years, and while the cartridges themselves have English ingame text the manuals and boxes are in Dutch. There may also be country specific modifications beyond this. (I can't think of any specific to the SNES, but wolfenstein and Doom both have additional censorship in Germany throughout most releases of the games.)

Without actual details to verify any of this it's a bit of a moot point perhaps, but I'm concerned the list doesn't really accommodate for things such as multiple release dates in the same 'region' (PAL after all covers dozens of countries), and version variations (though this is perhaps less relevant in general.

Just thought I'd make a note of it since it presents a limitation of the way this list is organised that could be problematic in future. (and in terms of release dates, where are the PAL release dates coming from? UK data? France? Germany? Some random un-attributed mixture? If I add a large number of release dates from my magazine collection, most of which are Australian dates, would that confuse the list?)

I'm bringing this up because it's a potential issue the list might run into in future if more data is added, and it's probably best to consider structural issues sooner rather than later. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 122.151.184.53 (talk) 06:40, 19 July 2018 (UTC)

Multiple PAL versions exist for games on every gaming platform, not just the Super NES. While I can't claim to have been privy to any discussion on the subject, I'm pretty confident that the consensus would be that covering every iteration of PAL releases is an unrealistic goal and would make the games list tables overstuffed and unwieldy. Even on the individual games' articles, it's best not to cover PAL variants unless (1)they have notable differences, such as Riddick Bowe Boxing being released with completely different licensing in Mexico, and (2)you can cite those differences with a reliable source. If you still want to pursue this, I recommend bringing it up at Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games. More editors will see your post that way, and again, this is an issue which applies to every system, not just the Super NES.--Martin IIIa (talk) 13:58, 11 August 2018 (UTC)

Missing games and wrong classified games

Some SNES games are missing in this list. The missing ones i found are:

• Fighter's History: Mizoguchi Kiki Ippatsu!!
• Poi Poi Ninja World
• SD Gundam Generation: Ichinen Sensouki
• SD Gundam Generation: Gryps Senki
• SD Gundam Generation: Axis Senki
• SD Gundam Generation: Babylonia Kenkoku Senki
• SD Gundam Generation: Zanscare Senki
• SD Gundam Generation: Colony Kaku Senki
• SD Ultra Battle: Seven Densetsu
• SD Ultra Battle: Ultraman Densetsu

Additionally this game is classified wrong:

• Hong Kong 97 - unlicensed game which should be in the bottom table

Turaltay (talk) 13:17, 15 November 2018 (UTC)

Some fixing up on the publisher information

Can someone fix the publisher information on games that have more than one publisher, please? An example is Pocky & Rocky 2 where it says "Natsume ^NA/JP, Ocean Software ^EU" instead of "Natsume (JP/NA)
Ocean Software (EU)". 2605:E000:121D:8BF5:C918:17B2:AB4C:4391 (talk) 00:39, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Good observation, thanks for the heads up. It really isn't that hard to solve. I think it would've been quicker than posting a comment about it haha. Just open the 'Edit source' tab on the List of Super Nintendo Entertainment System games page, Crtl+A to select all of the text, and copy it into Microsoft Word. In Word, use "Find and Replace" and Find "< sup >" (without the spaces) and Replace them with "(", then Find "</ sup >" (without the spaces) and Replace with ")". Then Ctrl+A to select all that text in Word and copy it as the new Wikipedia page. You just have to check that there weren't any exceptions that are now messed up because of your edit, but it doesn't look like there would be. --Bchill53 (talk) 22:45, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

I probably like the superscripts better in how it looks, but either way. Like you observed, they're not consistent at the moment. So as long as that they are consistent, it really doesn't matter which way. --Bchill53 (talk) 22:51, 2 March 2019 (UTC)

Atari 8-bit family games category vandal

Can someone do something about a vandal who keeps adding the "Category:Atari 8-bit family games" link onto EVERY list of games released on consoles, handhelds and computers articles, please? I tried to remove the link in the non-Atari 8-bit games list articles but it doesn't appear in the editing pages. 98.148.147.172 (talk) 00:09, 15 May 2020 (UTC)

== duplicated entry: Ace o Nerae! / Aim for the Ace! == (actualy edited on the article)

same game, same realased date, but using 2 lines in the table. Ace o Nerae! / Aim for the Ace! - also: is missing some sufami turbo games, like Poi Poi Ninja World.

maybe "Pro Mahjong Tsuwamono" is duplicated

maybe the rankanban version is not be considered a new game, just the same game, re-released.

atention needed: a lot of duplicates of "Tengai Makyou Zero"

that entry with 'same game + Tengai Makyou Zero' is not needed, bundle is not a game, no need to be listed. and have one more variation shounen jump. keep just one.

Super Hockey '94 duplicated entry

no need to have Super Hockey '94 japanese , and one with europe name

no need to duplicated "Tengai Makyou Zero" entries

the shounem jump version can be inside the main article, no need to use 2 entry for the game — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:7F0:E181:7B94:1080:ACCD:7DB2:E84F (talk) 13:31, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

maybe "X-Terminator 2 Sauke" need to be removed from the list. it is Beta

beta, unlicensed — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:7F0:E181:7B94:1080:ACCD:7DB2:E84F (talk) 14:38, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

maybe no need to have a entry for "Yoshi no Kuruppon: Oven de Cookie"

its variation, not a new game, can be inside the article yoshi's cookie, no need to have a entry for it. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2804:7F0:E181:7B94:1080:ACCD:7DB2:E84F (talk) 14:50, 17 June 2020 (UTC)

Should combination cartridges be added to the list?

I added the Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World Cartridge to the list before it was undone without any reason provided as far as I can see. I don't want to be annoying and redo something that someone thought was unnecessary over and over, so I'm making it into a discussion on if there should be cartridges that are combinations of 2 games on this list. The NES List has them, so I think that these cartridges should also be counted, but I want to see what others think. VirchUrch0 (talk) 02:00, 17 July 2020 (UTC)

Star Fox 2

Star Fox 2 was initially released for the SNES Classic Edition on September 29, 2017. While it was not a cartridge release for the original SNES, and prototypes of the game have been available since 1999, it is still software intended for running on the SNES that requires an emulator to run on any hardware, and it was heavily marketed as a "lost SNES game" (despite a nearly complete version being available online since 2002). Does it (as well as stuff like EarthBound Beginnings and, for other systems, Hardcore for the Mega Drive) merit inclusion on this list? - Skynorth/Starfrost^{my talk page} 13:30, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Separate game lists

Shouldn't there be a separate list for Super Famicom games? Nate-Dawg921 (talk) 20:50, 17 April 2022 (UTC)

Sales Section in Game List

Can someone add a sales section to the list so I can know how many sales of each game were sold? Please? Supermariodude85 (talk) 22:05, 2 April 2023 (UTC)

North American Games

It says there are 721 North American Games. I decided for a project I wanted to compile every SNES game, but when I finished I only got to 717 games. Ludexteria (talk) 18:52, 22 September 2023 (UTC)

Question about the international version of Shin Nekketsu Kōha: Kunio-tachi no Banka (a.k.a. River City Girls Zero)

I was wondering if the international release of River City Girls Zero for the Nintendo Switch, PS4, PS5, Windows, Xbox One and Xbox Series X/S should be listed in the section for officially licensed aftermarket SNES video games since it got translated and emulated for those consoles in 2022? ArthurRead1976 (talk) 16:51, 29 March 2024 (UTC)

X-Terminator 2 Sauke

Shouldn't be listed in the master list? 2409:10:D300:1700:525A:65FF:FE99:534F (talk) 16:58, 15 June 2024 (UTC)