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- Eagles of Freedom Plaza (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No particular indication of notability; a war memorial like any other. The sources all refer to its inauguration: two are routine coverage in local news, one an army press release. Biruitorul Talk 23:11, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Merge to Sinaia where it is located. I disagree with the nominator as it is not a standard war memorial as it recognises all US troops who died in Romania in WWII not local troops and the inauguration was attended by United States Defense Attaché to Romania, Colonel Paul T. Matier, and the Dutch Ambassador to Bucharest, Mr. Matthijs van Bonzel. Of course the coverage is about its inauguration, what other coverage would there be ? However, there's not really enough content for a standalone article so a merge would be suitable, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 23:22, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- In fairness, the Dutch ambassador to Romania doesn’t have much to do; of course he’ll seize the opportunity to take a trip to a mountain resort and briefly stand around while someone else reads some platitudes about two countries, neither of which is his own. Pretty routine, in my view. Biruitorul Talk 10:24, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Lim Zoong-sun (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article fails WP:GNG. Redirect to 1966 North Korean World Cup Squad. Simione001 (talk) 22:31, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to 1966 FIFA World Cup squads#North Korea. GiantSnowman 17:54, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Ecobank Bulawayo Heist (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Delete per WP:NOTNEWS. Incident does not appear to be notable enough for a standalone article. CycloneYoris talk! 22:29, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Yolette Lévy (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Biography of a smalltown municipal councillor and activist, not properly referenced as having any strong claim to passing notability criteria for local politicians or activists. As always, neither city councillors nor activists are automatically entitled to have Wikipedia articles just because they existed, and have to show WP:GNG-worthy coverage and analysis about their work to validate its significance — the notability test at the WP:NPOL #2 level for local politicians hinges on the depth and range of reliable source coverage, not on merely verifying that she existed.
But 16 of the 20 footnotes here are directly affiliated primary sources that aren't support for notability at all, and of the just four hits that come from real GNG-worthy media, two are just death reportage from the local media in her hometown; one is just a short blurb about her winning a minor award that isn't highly notable enough to clinch an instant "she's notable because she won this award" freebie all by itself for a person who's otherwise this poorly sourced; and the last one doesn't mention her name at all, and is here solely to verify via her absence from it that she didn't win a city council seat in the election that it's "sourcing", and thus isn't a demonstration of her notability. (And meanwhile, all of the city council elections she did win are supported by the primary sourcing rather than GNG-worthy analysis about her work on the council.)
Nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to be referenced much, much better than this. Bearcat (talk) 21:18, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak Delete - Bearcat makes a good case for deletion here. Being on the board of UQAT is not notable, most of the sources are from the applicant's death. However, while Deletion is not cleanup, if sources could be found that talk about her as the first Haitian city councilor of Val d'Or, maybe that would be something toward notability, but otherwise it doesn't seem to meet the guidelines of WP:NPOL. Bkissin (talk) 20:14, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: She was an important union player, pushing for women's rights.--Ipigott (talk) 16:33, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- And what sourcing establishes the permanent significance of her work as a union organizer, considering that her union work is referenced entirely to the primary sourcing here? Bearcat (talk) 12:36, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- How about this for a start? I expect we could find much more about her union activities in support of women if we had better access to the French-language Quebec press.--Ipigott (talk) 17:12, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- We need a lot more than just one source to establish notability on that basis, especially when that one source is just her obituary from the local television station, where coverage of the deaths of local figures is merely expected — we would need to see evidence of her being widely recognized as a union organizer beyond just her own city, which is still lacking. Also, the French-language Quebec press googles just the same as English-language press does, so we don't lack that kind of access at all. Bearcat (talk) 17:10, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- How about this for a start? I expect we could find much more about her union activities in support of women if we had better access to the French-language Quebec press.--Ipigott (talk) 17:12, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- And what sourcing establishes the permanent significance of her work as a union organizer, considering that her union work is referenced entirely to the primary sourcing here? Bearcat (talk) 12:36, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: I added sources from radio Canada, and also found out that a beer was named after her after her death to honour her community enngagement. Her role as president of the STENOQ trade union for teachers also appears in a 1996 history book about the region Histoire de l'Abitibi-Témiscamingue published by the Institut Québécois de Recherche sur la Culture. Nattes à chat (talk)
- The article is still referenced very overwhelmingly to primary sources rather than reliable ones that count as support for notability, having a beer named after them isn't a reason why a person would get a Wikipedia article in and of itself, and local history books don't secure international notability all by themselves if purely local coverage is all the person has. Bearcat (talk) 17:14, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep per my understanding of WP:NPOSSIBLE which says
Notability requires only that suitable independent, reliable sources exist in the real world; it does not require their immediate presence or citation in an article.
. She is mentioned in Histoire de l'Abitibi-Témiscamingue, though to what degree I cannot say due to lack of access on my part. There is an award named after her, here is a source stating she was named to the Board of Directors Université du Québec en Abitibi-Temiscamingue. Page 16 of this source details her accomplishments, the awards she won in life, and the award named after her. This source substantiates her status as having won an award. This source describes her winning the Alexina Croteau award as well as speaking of her accomplishments including being President of a Union and that she was the coordinator of the World March of Women in Vallée-de-l’Or. There is also this source which was published years after her death and is described asa regional and independent socio-cultural newspaper whose mission is to provide information on cultural life and social and political issues in Abitibi-Témiscamingue
. Considering the existence of an award named after her, a resolution mentioning setting her name aside for future usage, and her status on the Board of Directors for Université du Québec en Abitibi-Temiscamingue and her involvement in the World March of Women, I find it probable to believe that there are sources in Quebec newspapers that we might not have access to. --Brocade River Poems (She/They) 01:10, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hill House Home (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No evidence of any notability. Any significance seems to centre around a single garment that was popular during the Covid pandemic. Searches reveal very little of worth about the article subject, but more about the garment. Sources are very weak. Fails WP:GNG Velella Velella Talk 21:55, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Easily meets notability guidelines. Widespread coverage for years in major news sources. Hard to understand the deletion rationale. Did the nominator make an effort to find sources before nominating? Thriley (talk) 22:05, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: A quick Google search in the news sections shows a decent amount of coverage about the dress the business made, but not really the business itself. My recommended action would be to assess the nap dress's notability first, since that's what this article seems to hinge on for its validation of existence. If the dress can be deemed notable enough, then it could be included in a relevant section of, I dunno... 2020s in fashion? If the dress isn't notable, then the article about the business itself doesn't really have a leg to stand on. Sirocco745 (talk) 03:50, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: Can you explain more on your claim that the fashion store/brand is lacking in notability? While there is certainly a ton of news coverage of their Nap Dress product that made them big in 2020, there also continues to be significant coverage of them since, with that coverage focusing on what the company has expanded into beyond just that product, including plenty of news covering their physical expansion over the years as well. Some examples:
- Hill House Home Opens New South Carolina Store Featuring Fashion, Homewares & Snacks - Women's Wear Daily
- Hill House Is Bringing Its Nap Dress Magic to Wallpapers and Pillows - Architectural Digest
- The Nap Room: How Hill House Home Redefined the Drop and Created Entrepreneurial Magic - Inc.
- Hill House raises $20 million to build on Nap Dress success and expand fashion portfolio - Fortune
- I'm seeing extended and ongoing coverage showcasing their notability as a store, fairly consistently having articles about them in both major newspapers and fashion and business magazines. If anything, the coverage has been increasing in the past two years as compared to earlier. SilverserenC 04:16, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Affirming Pentecostal Church International (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There are no reliable, independate, relevant, or recent sources on this organization. Even the website of the organization itself does not have any organizational information on it. It definitely does not pass the WP:Notability or WP:Verifiability tests. JParksT2023 (talk) 21:03, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Check Point VPN-1 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No real sources on this article demonstrating notability, and only one source I could find online. Fails WP:NCORP. Allan Nonymous (talk) 20:35, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - incredibly minor product offering from an otherwise notable company. Lack of sustained coverage reflects that. Brandon (talk) 04:40, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Check Point GO (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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All coverage is WP:ROUTINE and the article is largely WP:PROMO. Allan Nonymous (talk) 20:32, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - incredibly minor product offering from an otherwise notable company. Lack of sustained coverage reflects that. Brandon (talk) 04:40, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- József Somogyi (footballer, born 1955) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:GNG. Searches have failed to show WP:SIGCOV Demt1298 (talk) 19:52, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 17:53, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Torbjørn Schei (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No sources cited in the article since its creation in 2016, fails WP:BIO and WP:SINGERWP:BANDMEMBER. Mika1h (talk) 19:44, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Herbert Daughtry (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Notability is WP:NOTINHERITED from his daughter or his protege. Reliable sources appear to only have passing mentions of him. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:23, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment @Muboshgu: A search in the NY Times archive: [1] shows he has gotten press for decades as an important community activist in New York City. Thriley (talk) 19:37, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- NY Times archive to me appears to be passing mentions. I lack a subscription though so I can't see some of them. I don't know what to make of this for notability. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:40, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Courtesy link for those with WP:Library ProQuest access. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 20:34, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- This is a different Herbert Daughtry. The Herbert Daughtry of this afd was 47 in 1978: [2] Thriley (talk) 21:13, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Courtesy link for those with WP:Library ProQuest access. --Slgrandson (How's my egg-throwing coleslaw?) 20:34, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- NY Times archive to me appears to be passing mentions. I lack a subscription though so I can't see some of them. I don't know what to make of this for notability. – Muboshgu (talk) 19:40, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep Daughtry has received widespread press coverage over six decades. Meets GNG. Thriley (talk) 18:15, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Poonam Jhawer (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No sign of meeting WP:NACTOR or WP:GNG. Tagged for notability since a couple of weeks after it was created, over a year ago. A WP:BEFORE search yielded nothing at all. bonadea contributions talk 19:05, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep- meets WP:NACTOR with her significant roles in Aanch and OMG.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 19:33, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- On what do you base the claim that she had a significant role in Aanch? The only secondary and independent source in that article (a review of the film) doesn't even mention her. In OMG, her role was not insignificant, but also not a major role. --bonadea contributions talk 06:56, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Not lead but sgnificant, you surely mean? https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/entertainment/hindi/bollywood/news/female-spiritual-leader-inspired-poonam-jhawars-role/articleshow/16587850.cms she; is obviously in the main cast of Aanch, given the character she plays, hard to call the role not significant https://www.tvguide.com/movies/aanch/cast/2000123959/ -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 08:08, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- 18 (British Board of Film Classification) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article appears to lack standalone notability, and much of it is unsourced and may be WP:OR. What references there are do not establish WP:SIGCOV:
1 is just a list of the BBFC's ratings.
2 is primary.
3 comes the closest to SIGCOV, but is mostly about 9 Songs as a case study for general film censorship in the UK, and only briefly mentions the 18 rating.
4 just links to the Channel 4 website. Probably a dead link.
5 is WP:USERG and essentially just a list.
6 covers a completely different rating system and never mentions the BBFC, or Cannibal Holocaust, as it is claimed to. I have no idea why this is cited, and it might just be a mistake.
7-9 are primary.
The external link is just describing the rating, and BFI has pages that go into similar detail about the other ratings.
Google Scholar lists many articles that briefly refer to the 18 rating, but none that focus substantially on it. [3] This article comes the closest, but is mostly a comparison of British and French rating systems in their entirety, and covers the 15 rating in just as much detail.
Google Books and JSTOR similarly list several books/articles that mention the 18 rating, but none that give it substantial focus. All of them focus either on film censorship in the UK, or the BBFC as a whole. Those that do discuss the 18
rating, such as [4], discuss other ratings in similar detail.
The 18 rating might be mentioned more often than the others in secondary sources, but this is because it is the rating censored films usually have. The 18 rating itself is never the
main topic, and does not have SIGCOV. Discussion of the 18 rating individually, while definitely more than WP:TRIVIALMENTIONs, appears insufficient
to establish standalone notability compared to the U-15 ratings.
The BBFC is the only rating system I'm aware of that has individual pages for specific ratings. The standard practice is to include information about ratings on the system's page, as with Pan-European Game Information or
Freiwillige Selbstkontrolle der Filmwirtschaft. Ratings from other systems with their own pages tend to be notable due to their rarity, and their articles are usually lists, such as List of NC-17 rated films or List of AO-rated video games.
The BBFC 18 rating is not particularly rare, so it does not meet what appear to be the criteria for a standalone page (a list would be far too long).
Most of the content of this article is already covered in British Board of Film Classification, History of British film certificates, and Film censorship in the United Kingdom.
There is already ample information here on the 18 rating, and this article should redirect to British Board of Film Classification#Current certificates. Masskito (talk) 21:21, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: as a detailed article, whose sourcing can be improved, just like R18. But significant coverage in reliable sources warrants a standalone page. Civil Liberties and Human Right, p. 560 (Fenwick, H. (2009). Civil Liberties and Human Rights. Taylor & Francis); Smartt, U. (2017). Media & Entertainment Law Taylor & Francis; Controversial Images: Media Representations on the Edge (2012). Palgrave Macmillan, and so on, -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 09:09, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. Satisfies GNG. Obviously this has massive coverage in books and periodicals, which comes up immediately on even the most cursory search. I could point, for example, to this discussion of changes to the scope of the classification: [5] [6] [7]. James500 (talk) 15:47, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- IMOCA 60 Initiative Coeur 4 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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There is no WP:SIGCOV of this sailboat and thus it fails WP:GNG. PROD was contested. Would support redirection to IMOCA 60. Dclemens1971 (talk) 14:56, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Hi, its common practice that every IMOCA 60 has its own page, like the french wikipedia (https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Initiatives-C%C5%93ur_4). The importance is given by the Vendée Globe starting only in about two months. Give me some time to bring the article up to speed. V.Glas (talk) 19:19, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- @V.Glas
You created the pageThis page was created in November 2023 and it has had no independent, reliable, secondary sources since then. That seems like plenty of time to find them and "bring the article up to speed." (I don't believe they exist, since I searched for them WP:BEFORE nominating.) As for your argument that "it's common practice," that's an WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS argument that does not rely on any actual guidelines, and we follow English Wikipedia guidelines here. What is your policy-based reason for keeping this article? One alternative, if you believe sources will be available after the Vendee Globe, is to draftify this article, which is the appropriate place for it if you're still working on finding sources. Let me know what you think. Dclemens1971 (talk) 19:32, 19 September 2024 (UTC)- First of all, I did not create the page. That was @Yachty4000. If you are looking for sources or notability, take the French article as reference. I already translated and added some parts. V.Glas (talk) 20:13, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- I apologize for my misstatement and have struck it above. Regardless there is now a week for sufficient sources to be identified. As I said, I didn’t find any that fit the bill (and I looked in French as well). But if you find some and they do meet the standards of WP:SIGCOV in WP:SIRS I will withdraw the nomination. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:29, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- First of all, I did not create the page. That was @Yachty4000. If you are looking for sources or notability, take the French article as reference. I already translated and added some parts. V.Glas (talk) 20:13, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: V.Glas has added several sources. Five of them are to the IMOCA website and thus not independent. Three ([8], [9], [10]) are WP:INTERVIEWS with the boat's skipper and thus primary sources. One ([11]) is a WP:TRIVIALMENTION in an article about several boats being built for the Vendee Globe. One ([12]) appears to be a publicity piece. Two ([13], [14]) do not mention the Initiative Coeur 4 at all. One ([15]) appears to be self-published. And finally, one ([16]) is a brief mention amid WP:ROUTINE race coverage. In short, I still don't see any SIGCOV in secondary, independent, reliable sources. Dclemens1971 (talk) 02:41, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
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- National Good Neighbor Day (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Orphan article with no meaningful content and three contradictory facts. Nick Levine (talk) 17:34, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep It’s an orphan article, and a stub at that, but the holiday is real, a quick google throws up literally hundreds of current references to it in various local newspapers talking about local events celebrating it this year, and the three contradictory facts aren’t contradictory - all three have sources proving they happened, as simply clicking on the source links shows immediately. It was invented, THEN Carter make a proclamation, THEN the senate passed a resolution, three different steps, taken over time, to promote the holiday. Like, sure, someone should absolutely edit the article to make it better, and I would have thought that would be the first step rather than listing it for deletion, policy certainly suggests it should be, but this is a no-brainer for keeping with THAT many sources showing sustained news coverage over literally decades, including 6 articles filed today alone. Absurdum4242 (talk) 19:36, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails WP:NEVENT, which requires WP:DEPTH in sourcing. There are literally thousands of news stories about this holiday, but they're all brief and light human-interest news items that do not go into any depth on the subject. All we're left with are the presidential proclamations and congressional resolution, which are (a) WP:PRIMARYSOURCEs and (b) the kind of thing that presidents and Congress issue in vast volumes every business day. We do not have articles on every pretend holiday or observance month Congress has recognized with a courtesy resolution, because there would be thousands if not tens of thousands of them, and Wikipedia is WP:NOT an indiscriminate collection of information. Bottom line: No WP:SIGCOV, no WP:DEPTH, no WP:GNG, no WP:NEVENT. Dclemens1971 (talk) 22:04, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
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very clearly promotional, extremely thin, and extremely vague as well. I also can't really find any good sources outside of the ones provided on the page. Gaismagorm (talk) 15:45, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Argy DJ (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I can't find anything that suggests this DJ meets WP:NBIO or WP:NMUSICIAN. A lot of the content and sources are simply verified through YouTube or AV content and don't go to notability. A lot of the content of the article specifies where the subject has performed, but the coverage only shows listings (not SIGCOV) or just videos, as previously mentioned. The one caveat that I have is that I am not able to find (and therefore assess) any sources that may be in Greek. Bobby Cohn (talk) 15:22, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment - If this article is kept, its title should be changed to Argy (DJ), because his stage name is simply Argy. He can't have that basic namespace though, due to the town of the same name. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 19:34, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
In Greek there is only o)ne source. Clearly, DeletePallikari ap' ta Sfakia 18:38, 27 September 2024 (UTC) (sock strike Liz Read! Talk! 02:30, 3 October 2024 (UTC))
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- Delete (for now) - The notability situation is not as bad as it looks, because the article's creators didn't take the time to look for non-social media sources. He has a robust album review at [17]. He has generated some more media coverage in the form of interviews at [18], [19], [20], [21]. Unfortunately, those are all softball interviews from specialist webzines of unconfirmed reliability, so he remains largely unnoticed by the more reliable and objective music media so far. He might achieve WP's requirements for notability in the not-too-distant future but he has to get out of the esoteric underground first. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 19:25, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Bob Hayden (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No indication of notability. Does not appear to meet WP:BASIC. Article has no sources and has been this way for just under two decades. AusLondonder (talk) 17:58, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: When completing WP:BEFORE, I found reliable sources which can be used to improve this biography. The Monroe News article highlights his lengthy career. Another substantial biogrraphy is on USA Hockey. In searching online newspapers, there are hundreds of hits to be followed up on. This biography should be kept as per WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP. Best wishes. Flibirigit (talk) 11:35, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- FactGrid (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I find no independent coverage of this database. It does appear useful, but appears to be too soon to be a notable product. A BEFORE shows it's in use and blurbs about how the tool works, but it's from the tool itself.
While I would be fine with a redirect to University_of_Erfurt#University_projects, I don't think it's DUE there, and that has already been contested so merits more discussion. Star Mississippi 17:42, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Anjum Lucknowi (author) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Cut-and-paste move of declined AfC draft Draft:Anjum Lucknowi to a WP:GAMENAMEd title evading a salting. * Pppery * it has begun... 17:32, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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This has been unreferenced for years, and I couldn't find sources to add which would back up this information and show this meets WP:NPLACE / WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 17:30, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Lisa Thackwell (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Not independently notable - inherited from her husband and her brother Golikom (talk) 16:41, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to David Brabham#Family per nom. Not independently notable. Frank Anchor 03:29, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Hamilton International Film Festival (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article about a smalltown film festival, not properly sourced as having any strong claim to passing inclusion criteria for film festivals. As always, film festivals are not "inherently" notable just for existing, and have to be shown to have reliable source coverage to pass WP:GNG and WP:NORG -- but this is referenced to just one hit of purely local coverage and two primary sources that aren't support for notability at all, and a Google search mostly found glancing namechecks of this in coverage of films or filmmakers rather than coverage about this.
There's also an ambiguity problem here, as there's a Canadian film festival (without an article yet) that's officially just the "Hamilton Film Festival" but does sometimes get mistakenly called the "Hamilton International Film Festival" -- and a significant number of the hits in the Google search meant the Canadian one and were thus irrelevant here. I also had to unlink almost every single inbound wikilink to this article (except the disambiguatory hatnote in New Zealand's Hamilton Underground Film Festival, which is now the only inbound left), because every single actor or film that was linking here as a "notable because awards" play was referenced to a source that explicitly verified that the Canadian one was the intended topic.
Since I'm still waiting for my restored access to Newspapers.com, I'm willing to withdraw this if somebody with better access to other databases of archived US media coverage than I've got (or unbroken Newspapers.com) can find more than I was able to find on Google, but nothing here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt it from having to be referenced better than this. Bearcat (talk) 16:01, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: has received independent coverage. Sources include : https://www.wktv.com/news/entertainment/hamilton-international-film-festival-this-week/article_6fa70b8c-490d-11ef-b1e6-db98625d17b7.html https://www.oneidadispatch.com/2018/07/30/your-neighbor-hamilton-natives-bring-hollywood-to-madison-county-with-film-festival/ https://eu.uticaod.com/story/mid-york-weekly/2012/09/19/film-festival-gives-back-to/41647345007/ https://www.syracuse.com/news/2011/01/sons_to_honor_dads_amazing_col.html. A DISAMB page can be created to mention 3 festivals with this name exist. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 00:48, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Embassy of Turkey, Seoul (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:ORG. One primary source. The history section is actually about relations with North Korea which should be in North Korea–Turkey relations. LibStar (talk) 15:46, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Evan Hofer (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article fails to meet the eneral notability guidelines for biographies of living persons. Also, the character description (in-depth) for the role (previously misspelt as "roll") of Dex Heller seems mildly inflammatory and violating of the encyclopedia's neutral point of view policy. Having one notable acting role⏤for which no stand alone article exists for⏤does not seem to be a valid reason enough for a living persons article to exist on the encyclopedia. livelikemusic (TALK!) 15:46, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: He had 3 significant roles in notable productions, and the article, very much a stub, mentions them. Add sources like:https://www.soapcentral.com/general-hospital/news-the-wonderful-first-impression-general-hospital-s-evan-hofer-made-emma-samms ;https://www.themirror.com/entertainment/celebrity-news/general-hospital-star-evan-hofer-294979 ; https://www.deseret.com/2019/2/25/20666865/movie-review-run-the-race-has-an-uplifting-message-unfortunately-not-all-of-it-crosses-the-finish-li/; https://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/run-the-race-2019 ; https://www.thelist.com/1029918/general-hospital-fans-debate-whether-dex-is-the-hook-serial-killer-or-just-a-red-herring/ etc. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 17:34, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: I agree with the nominator that it is an awful article, and that doesn't matter. Even an excellent article can be deleted if the subject fails general notability guidelines. Mr. Hofer is certainly notable. He has been playing a major character on an Emmy Award winning TV series for a couple years. Far from obscure, ABC is on of the most watched networks in the United States. Significant coverage is a given. Kerbyki (talk) 16:16, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
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Redirect to Slovakia at the 2018 Winter Olympics#Cross-country skiing because I could not find any in-depth coverage of this athlete to meet WP:GNG. Corresponding article on Slovak Wikipedia is likewise an unsourced dump. ⋆。˚꒰ঌ Clara A. Djalim ໒꒱˚。⋆ 14:53, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Hanna (character) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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According to my Google search, this character is not individually notable from the film or television series. Sources only mention the character in passing, or not in a way that would meet SIGCOV or individual notability. As for the sources in the article, they are also passing and do not prove individual notability. (Keep in mind that the character is a main character, so obviously there will be a lot of sources, but for individual notability, there should be at least a few reliable, secondary sources about the specific character and their impact, just in case any fights break out if I don't say this.)
I'd say a delete is best because whichever page shall this article redirect to would be hard to decide. Spinixster (trout me!) 14:46, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete per nom. WP:BEFORE shows WP:TRIVIALMENTIONs and/or plot recap. A redirect might make sense, but this is a pretty broad search term. Shooterwalker (talk) 15:45, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect seems like the most prudent choice here. I would pick the film, since it is the original work and better known than the TV series overall.★Trekker (talk) 16:00, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect, but to Hannah (name)#Fictional characters 2. I agree with Shooterwalker that the article title is way to broad to be useful as a redirect specifically to the movie. Not only is it somewhat doubtful that someone would type this in as a search term, but the vagueness of such a search means it could be looking for any other fictional character named Hannah or Hanna. This particular Hanna, with a link to both the movie and TV show, is already included in the list I suggested, so would be a much more useful target for a Redirect to help in searches. Rorshacma (talk) 17:00, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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No notable wrestler. Just worked on an independent level. The article has sources, most of them are WP:ROUTINE results, others passing mentions. Looking for sources, he only has passing mentions on a few events 1 HHH Pedrigree (talk) 14:42, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Passes GNG with 1, 2, 3, and 4.★Trekker (talk) 15:46, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Anna Bianchi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails to satisfy WP:NARTIST and WP:GNG (given most sources provide WP:ROUTINE coverage. Allan Nonymous (talk) 12:32, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment if she was the subject of an entire book, that is far beyond routine coverage, no? PARAKANYAA (talk) 12:35, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- The book in question is a book written by her [22], at least if the ISBN of the supposed book is correct. Allan Nonymous (talk) 13:19, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Judging from the description, I am unsure. It contains a catalogue of her artworks (hence her listing as the author) but says it has writings from other people. The publisher also lists it as having an editor who is not her. Don't have the time to look into this right now. PARAKANYAA (talk) 14:10, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- The book in question is a book written by her [22], at least if the ISBN of the supposed book is correct. Allan Nonymous (talk) 13:19, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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Delete - source analysis indicates WP:TOOSOON for this artist. fails WP:NARTIST. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:12, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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https://recherche.sik-isea.ch/it/sik:person-4003308:exp/in/sikart/actor?0.0.type=actor&0.0.q=Anna%20Bianchi&0.type=actor | see SIKART | ~ biographical information and images | ~ Partial | |
https://www.ilterebintoedizioni.it/empatismo-scuola-empatica-movimento-letterario-artistico-filosofico-e-culturale-sorto-in-italia-nel-2020/ | promotional material for The Empathic School | ✘ No | ||
https://www.laregione.ch/culture/arte/1701555/anna-opere-volume-bianchi-opera | ? | ? | ? essay on image displayed at the Imaginary Gallery, in Florence | ? Unknown |
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- Indo Gulf Fertilisers (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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lack of significant coverage in independent, reliable sources, which raises questions about its notability and relevance in the context of Wikipedia. Jiaoriballisse (talk) 14:26, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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I struggled to find sources as firstly there seems to be a song or dance of the same name and secondly the article does not say what the Turkish name is. I found a couple of mentions in Google Scholar but not enough to show notability. I don’t know that part of Turkey so happy to be proved wrong if you know better Chidgk1 (talk) 14:05, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Lincoln cent mintage figures (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No evidence of any notability for this WP:NOTSTATS list, fails WP:LISTN. Fram (talk) 08:35, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
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- United States cent mintage figures (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) Fram (talk) 13:23, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge with United States cent mintage figures as a WP:ATD. If that page is also non-notable it should be added to the deletion. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 10:36, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Zxcvbnm: Do you wish to amend your !vote, now that the target has been added to the nomination? Otherwise, this AfD could be procedurally closed with no action due to the improper mid-process scope expansion. Owen× ☎ 12:15, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- "improper mid-process" as in after just 5 hours in a 1-week process, and after the only two responders explicitly asked to include it? Fram (talk) 12:59, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- I don't see where Zxcvbnm agreed to this inclusion. Once he does, there's no problem. Until then, yes, this is an improper mid-process scope expansion, even if it was one minute after he !voted here. You've been an admin, you know how this works. Owen× ☎ 13:26, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- "If that page is also non-notable it should be added to the deletion." You are an admin, you should know how to read. Or to keep such personal remarks which add nothing to the discussion out of it, as they are obviously not helpful. Fram (talk) 13:54, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry for sparking the confusion/argument, but I agree with Fram's addition of the parent list. Both fail WP:NOTSTATS, as said in the nomination. Every single "mintage figure" list is clearly just a database and I see no evidence presented that they are independently notable, I was leaving it open for someone to potentially present that evidence. I'm not sure I'd agree it's "improper" since nobody else actually registered their opinion. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:16, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you. Glad we cleared this up. Owen× ☎ 14:44, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry for sparking the confusion/argument, but I agree with Fram's addition of the parent list. Both fail WP:NOTSTATS, as said in the nomination. Every single "mintage figure" list is clearly just a database and I see no evidence presented that they are independently notable, I was leaving it open for someone to potentially present that evidence. I'm not sure I'd agree it's "improper" since nobody else actually registered their opinion. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:16, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- "If that page is also non-notable it should be added to the deletion." You are an admin, you should know how to read. Or to keep such personal remarks which add nothing to the discussion out of it, as they are obviously not helpful. Fram (talk) 13:54, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- I don't see where Zxcvbnm agreed to this inclusion. Once he does, there's no problem. Until then, yes, this is an improper mid-process scope expansion, even if it was one minute after he !voted here. You've been an admin, you know how this works. Owen× ☎ 13:26, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- "improper mid-process" as in after just 5 hours in a 1-week process, and after the only two responders explicitly asked to include it? Fram (talk) 12:59, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Zxcvbnm: Do you wish to amend your !vote, now that the target has been added to the nomination? Otherwise, this AfD could be procedurally closed with no action due to the improper mid-process scope expansion. Owen× ☎ 12:15, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- As the creator, it should be noted that I split this article off from United States cent mintage figures per WP:SIZESPLIT. I have no preference for deleting or keeping the article, so long as the same is done to United States cent mintage figures. However, I am opposed to merging it back into the parent article. - ZLEA T\C 12:32, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Okay, I've added United States cent mintage figures to the nomination! Fram (talk) 13:23, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Kira Hagi (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Her acting roles are small or in movies that aren't notable themselves and she hasn't established herself as a notable artist. While there is considerable media attention, much of it feels sensationalistic. I might be overlooking something since I don’t speak Romanian but her notability shouldn't simply stem from her father being a famous footballer (WP:INVALIDBIO) Ynsfial (talk) 12:45, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Weak keep. She seems to have notability on her own as an actress, though is hard for me to evaluate the notability of the films she acted in.Anonimu (talk) 14:14, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- I agree it should be kept, she seems notable in her own country Natlaur (talk) 23:20, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Gheorghe_Hagi#Personal_life -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:50, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- I share the same thoughts, I've seen Kira Hagi's article and honestly I think the Article still have what to be improved, as the movies she acted in, e.g. 167.250.71.19 (talk) 21:13, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:GNG and WP:SPORTCRIT. Played a couple of minutes in the Chinese Super League, as well as a loan in the third league. Sources are WP:ROUTINE and I don't see anything else that can help it pass. Geschichte (talk) 07:22, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - no evidence of notability. If sources are found which show significant coverage please ping me. GiantSnowman 12:58, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep – Chinese sources (sports.sina.com.cn) demonstrate the minimum to establish WP:SIGCOV. Svartner (talk) 12:32, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
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If these courts were notable I would have thought there would be a Turkish article. Tagged uncited for years and I cannot find anything in Google Scholar Chidgk1 (talk) 13:47, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete as far as I can see ‘haciz’ simply means foreclosure. I can find sources talking about foreclosure proceedings but not about a dedicated court that specifically deals with them. Mccapra (talk) 18:38, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Samson Styles (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non notable individual. Not as a producer or as a "crack-dealing mogul" (as called by Daily Beast, ref 10, content noticeably absent from the page). Refbombed spam that screams of UPE. Lacks independent coverage about him. Awards are not major. duffbeerforme (talk) 13:41, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: The crack cocaine movie on netflix was directed by Stanley Nelson; this individual was a "consulting producer". I wouldn't consider that a notable role. The few refs that are in RS mention Stanley, not this person. I don't see notability. Oaktree b (talk) 14:12, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: Notability exists as a producer and consulting producer for most renowned movies, one being 'Killing Beef'. Sufficient sources exist and mention his work. Sources can be assessed in previous versions of this article. Rpgea (talk) 18:45, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Shalini Govil-Pai (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non notable individual. Refbombed primary sourced spam that screams of UPE. Lacks independent coverage about her. Awards are not major. duffbeerforme (talk) 13:38, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Allen Mendenhall (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non notable individual. Refbombed primary sourced spam that screams of UPE. Lacks independent coverage about him. duffbeerforme (talk) 13:36, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment. WP:NAUTHOR notability looks possible. I found two reviews [23][24] of the same work. There are Kirkus reviews, but they are in the pay-to-play "Kirkus Indie" program, and do not contribute towards notability. If NAUTHOR notability were found, then the article would need to be reworked to focus more on that. Russ Woodroofe (talk) 14:46, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Ata Sanayi railway station (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Turkish article only has primary cite and I cannot see any info there or in my search to show this is any more than a standard station - cannot see how notable. Also I don’t understand why “If there are truly no sources (including in Turkish) then this should be merged and/or redirected rather than deleted”. @Thryduulf:? Chidgk1 (talk) 13:35, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge and or redirect if sources cannot be found. The station verifiably exists so should be a blue link as a very plausible search term. If it isn't notable enough for a stand-alone article then it should be merged and/or redirected to the appropriate broader article. Given that this is a station in Turkey it seems very likely that the majority of sources will be in Turkish - just because they aren't cited in the Turkish Wikipedia article is not evidence they don't exist. Thryduulf (talk) 14:31, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oh I see yes redirecting to Northern Line (İZBAN) would be fine by me Chidgk1 (talk) 14:45, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- 2004 in Turkish television (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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tagged uncited for many years and does not seem to be notable Chidgk1 (talk) 13:26, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- I deproDed the page. I have seen other years taken to AfD. But why? This is a pretty standard way to approach history of television by country. Mexico has them, Korea has them, and so on. Turkey is a major country with a long history of television. What's the issue? Non-notable, how? I would !vote Keep but that would imply restoring all the other years. But I don't understand. It's very easy to source every event with books and/or news. And for general coverage, just open Yanardağoğlu, Eylem, Television in Turkey: Local Production, Transnational Expansion and Political Aspirations, Springer International Publishing, 2020; "The Transformation of the Media System in Turkey: Citizenship, Communication, and Convergence", Springer International Publishing, 2021; The Regulation of Turkish Network Industries. (2022), Springer International Publishing. A source for each and every programme broadcast is easily found. I am seriously confused.-My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 18:05, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Rajshahi Cantonment Board School And College (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article reliance on promotional content and local news also it does not fulfill WP:GNG. Nxcrypto Message 12:20, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Rajendrapur Cantonment Public School and College (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article does not provide substantial independent coverage and depends mainly on promotional content and local news. It fails to satisfy WP:GNG due to a lack of third-party references that demonstrate its significance. Nxcrypto Message 12:16, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify - It Should Be Moved to A Draft. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk)
- Why? What are you going to do with the draft that you didn't do when you wrote the article in the first place? – Joe (talk) 12:31, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Oh Really? I didn’t even properly know what draft was back then in July, I knew a small fraction. Not everyone knows every Wikipedia policy or the majority of them. I will try to Increase the amount of references, What's the problem here? User:BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk)
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- Lalmonirhat Cantonment Public School And College (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article lacks significant independent coverage and relies primarily on promotional material and local news sources. It fails to meet WP:GNG as there is absence of third-party references to substantiate its relevance. Nxcrypto Message 12:11, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Ramu Cantonment Public School and College (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article lacks significant independent coverage and relies heavily on primary sources, primarily promotional material and local news. Without substantial third-party references, the article does not meet WP:GNG. Nxcrypto Message 11:56, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Hu Zhean (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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User:Ferdy Xu has been on Wikipedia for about 2 years, and contributions like this are his best. Almost all articles written by Ferdy Xu are nominated for deletion. I think this user either doesn't understand Wikipedia's rules or doesn't want to understand them at all. This user avoids communicating on the talk page, and deletes suggestions from other users on the talk page. And for Hu Zhean article, it fails BLP. Stvbastian (talk) 11:08, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment : In cases like these, its better to just move the article to draftspace instead of soliciting a deletion discussion. If the author persists, then it could be sent to Afd. zoglophie•talk• 18:32, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Im just so sick with such contributions. That is why i brought it up to the AFD right away. Your suggestion is correct, i should move the article to draftspace. ThanksStvbastian (talk) 05:16, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Move to draft I can understand the frustration, the lack of a lead sentence, lack of category are dead giveaways that there is a deficit in understanding what is needed in a new article JarrahTree 12:02, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Im just so sick with such contributions. That is why i brought it up to the AFD right away. Your suggestion is correct, i should move the article to draftspace. ThanksStvbastian (talk) 05:16, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Fried Water Films and Entertainment (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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insufficient independent sources and coverage, suggesting a lack of notable impact in the film industry Shinsi Bohansetr (talk) 10:15, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Navsarjan Trust (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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lack of significant coverage in reliable, independent sources Shinsi Bohansetr (talk) 10:14, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Karelian Bobtail (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Cannot find any independent sigcov. The mentions I can find are so brief and vague I can't even be sure they've not just simply misspelt Kurilian Bobtail. Traumnovelle (talk) 09:36, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Not the original editor for this article, I'm the one who added it to the list of cat breeds article. Karelian Bobtails are rare breed and mostly in rural villages. There are a handful of breeders in the Republic and Leningrad Oblast. Breeding is difficult because of the recessive gene. All original information online is in Russian, and a bit in Suvi. If you give me a couple weeks I can perhaps contact some people to see if they have the original research and documents from the 90s. I can't do this immediately though as I have field work for the next couple weeks.
- -Red 90.251.92.149 (talk) 13:30, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- I don't dispute the breed exists, just that there is not enough independent secondary coverage for a stand alone article. I do not mind waiting for you to look for sources but if they're original research and primary documents that aren't published they are not useful for Wikipedia. Traumnovelle (talk) 19:19, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Gafur Bahini (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article lacks sufficient independent sources to establish notability and relies heavily on a two local disputed references. Its content overlaps with broader articles on the Bangladesh Liberation War and Mukti Bahini, making it potentially redundant. Nxcrypto Message 09:17, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: I think the article fails WP:GNG. --CometVolcano (talk) 09:23, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Seriously? This is a notable militia. At, this point, These AfDs does not seem like It's for improvement of Wikipedia and, instead it is for targeting anybody and nominating their pages for deletion every time. I can add way more citations, The page could've just been improved by looking for citations. If you wanna delete all pages I created, Just tell me, I now understand the reason for deleting pages of minor skirmishes, but this is just different. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk)
- The user who nominated for deletion, literally deleted sources and then the argument was on relying on two sources, Seriously? BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk)
- Violation - Some of these AfDs have been decided on votes, and not proper arguments. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk)
- Draftify if Needed If this topic does not have enough notability, We Shouldn’t Completely Delete it, We could put into draft. BangladeshiEditorInSylhet (talk)
- Delete: After conducting a notability test, I conclude that the article does not meet any notability criteria. The subject of the article does not have significant coverage from multiple independent sources. Tried to search, but unable to find such coverage, and the article fails to meet WP:GNG. GrabUp - Talk 12:04, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Draftification will not help because this is a historical article, and if no coverage is found now, there is little chance it will receive coverage in the future. GrabUp - Talk 12:06, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Benz Circle Flyover (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Imagine if every flyover in the world had an article in Wikipedia. Lacks WP:N. Thewikizoomer (talk) 09:02, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep there are sources present. The nomination statement seems to be dismissing the article based on its subject, not the sourcing available Garuda3 (talk) 16:56, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete and also delete Kanakadurga Flyover as well. This is peak WP:MILL. Kinopiko talk 03:02, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- MILL is an essay and not policy. Garuda3 (talk) 20:39, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- It is someone's expression of policy. Geschichte (talk) 08:48, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- MILL is an essay and not policy. Garuda3 (talk) 20:39, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete - could be easily merged into Vijayawada article's transportation section. No need for separate article. RWILD✉ 02:41, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge to National Highway 16 (India).TheLongTone (talk) 10:48, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Why? You need to give some reasoning for your answer or it will be ignored by the closer. Garuda3 (talk) 11:16, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I'm not seeing a problem here - it's a major engineering project in a busy area, and the sources already in the article show enough sustained coverage to meet GNG. Adam Sampson (talk) 12:42, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - The sources for this article are good enough to pass WP:GNG. It leans heavily on The New Indian Express, which, according to the RS Noticeboard is reliable. The Times of India has to be used with caution, but the article cited does not seem to be an advertorial, so it can be used. The other source is The Hans India which is mentioned in RS Noticeboard but without it saying anything about its reliability. DesiMoore (talk) 15:33, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Pu Zhongjie (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Declined prod. Prod was removed with a source that is a 1 line mention of Pu. Created by a single purpose editor. Google news has a mere 2 hits. Would reconsider if significant coverage can be found in Chinese. LibStar (talk) 02:54, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete based on sources in the article. One is a press release, the others are not sigcov. The article itself has basically zero encyclopedic value, consisting entirely of companies he works at and his net worth. I tried looking for Chinese sources – there are some [25][26][27], but independence is questionable and it all probably doesn't add up to meet the GNG. FWIW, I also think the GNG should be strictly enforced for businesspeople à la NCORP. Toadspike [Talk] 18:44, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. To paraphrase the line from Hello, Dolly! (film), $380 million doesn’t get you notability, unless you spread it around like manure encouraging little things to grow, and get significant coverage in three or more reliable sources. Other than that, he’s one of thousands of newly minted rich people. Bearian (talk) 19:54, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yes and simply being the 849th richest person in China doesn't guarantee you an article. LibStar (talk) 10:23, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per the significant coverage in multiple independent reliable sources. The subject passes Wikipedia:Notability (people)#Basic criteria, which says:
People are presumed notable if they have received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject.
- If the depth of coverage in any given source is not substantial, then multiple independent sources may be combined to demonstrate notability; trivial coverage of a subject by secondary sources is not usually sufficient to establish notability.
Sources
- "Pu Zhongjie". China Daily. 2012-02-28. Archived from the original on 2024-10-01. Retrieved 2024-10-01.
The article notes: "Pu Zhongjie, born in 1963, is a doctoral degree holder and has obtained the permanent residence permit of the United States. Dr. Pu founded Lepu Group Co Ltd in 1998 and serves as the chairman of the Board and General Manager. ... Dr. Pu is the director of the Chinese Society of Biotechnology (CSBT), vice president of the Interventional Engineering Committee of CSBT and the member of the Changping CPPCC committee."
- Li, Yihe 李奕和 (2022-10-31). "乐普系分拆心泰医疗IPO,蒲忠杰难以摆脱"自家生意",依赖关联交易,增收不增利,上半年纯利下降42%" [The spin-off of Lepu's subsidiary, Xintai Medical, for its IPO sees Pu Zhongjie struggling to break free from "family business" ties, relying on related transactions. While revenue has increased, profits have not, with a 42% decline in net profit in the first half of the year.]. 乐居财经 [Leju Caijing] (in Chinese). Archived from the original on 2024-10-01. Retrieved 2024-10-01 – via Sina Corporation.
The article notes: "从校服到婚纱,蒲忠杰和妻子张月娥不仅是生意场上最得意的合作伙伴,二者还是同窗校友。蒲忠杰毕业于西安交通大学金属材料专业,在校期间结识了同专业的张月娥,此后结成连理。1999年6月,已获博士学位的蒲忠杰在国外求学期间接触了心脏支架研发的工作后,毅然回国,与妻子张月娥创立了乐普医疗。2009年,乐普医疗作为首批28家公司之一,登陆创业板,一举成为A股“心血管第一股”。"
From Google Translate: "From school uniforms to wedding dresses, Pu Zhongjie and his wife Zhang Yue'e are not only the most proud partners in the business world, but also classmates. Pu Zhongjie graduated from Xi'an Jiaotong University with a degree in metal materials. During his time at school, he met Zhang Yue'e, who was also a student in the same major, and they later got married. In June 1999, after Pu Zhongjie, who had obtained a doctorate degree, came into contact with the research and development of heart stents while studying abroad, he resolutely returned to China and founded Lepu Medical with his wife Zhang Yue'e. In 2009, Lepu Medical was listed on the Growth Enterprise Market as one of the first 28 companies, becoming the "first cardiovascular stock" in the A-share market."
- "创业板被指为"造富机器" 年产亿万富豪500位" [The ChiNext board is labeled a "wealth creation machine," producing 500 billionaires annually.]. The Beijing News (in Chinese). 2010-10-26. Archived from the original on 2024-10-01. Retrieved 2024-10-01 – via China News Service.
The article notes: "蒲忠杰 1963年出生。乐普医疗总经理。持股市值:66.40亿元。历任北京钢铁研究总院高级工程师,美国佛罗里达国际大学研究助理,美国WP医疗科技公司技术副总经理。他曾参与设计50余项专利,并发表15篇科研文章。1998年,蒲忠杰创办乐蒲集团。与其他创业板富豪榜相比,蒲忠杰是唯一的非实际控制人富豪,纯属“技术投资”。"
From Google Translate: "Pu Zhongjie was born in 1963. He is the general manager of Lepu Medical. Shareholding value: 6.64 billion yuan. He served as a senior engineer at the Beijing Iron and Steel Research Institute, a research assistant at Florida International University, and the technical deputy general manager of WP Medical Technology Company in the United States. He has participated in the design of more than 50 patents and published 15 scientific research articles. In 1998, Pu Zhongjie founded Lepu Group. Compared with other GEM rich lists, Pu Zhongjie is the only rich man who is not the actual controller, and is purely a "technical investment"."
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- Santhwanam 2 (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Probable failure of the notability guideline for films, but the more pressing concern is the amount of sockpuppetry this article has attracted. I didn't think it was appropriate to tag this under CSD G5, as a few other editors have worked on this, but at least two socks have edited this, and most of the rest comes from IP addresses that have edited the same articles as the socks and geolocate to the same city, suggesting block evasion. I also have concerns about the sources, many of which look like paid promotion disguised as news coverage, and a quick look for better ones did not reveal anything promising. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 03:20, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete - The IPs have removed the redirect three times now despite the three editors who disagreed so I guess here we are. Sad we have to be here over SOCKing. Judging notability outside of the editor conduct, it fails WP:NFILM as there is no significant coverage. Out of the 12 sources on the page, only one could possibly be used. The rest are unreliable per WP:ICTFSOURCES or WP:NEWSORGINDIA. --CNMall41 (talk) 03:43, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect to Pandian_Stores_2#Adaptations: of which this is an adaptation. Not opposed to Keep at all given the existing coverage. Opposed to deletion. Note: the page was accepted through the AfC process, for what it's worth. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 13:14, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Mushy Yank: Could you point to the sources you believe have the most significant coverage so we can better evaluate the subject's suitability under NFILM? —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 21:10, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- It's not a film but a TV series, so, I don't mind you and other users judging it by NFILM standards, if you wish to do so (that could make sense, actually), but in general it's GNG that applies for TV series (WP:NTV being an essay, as I am sure you know, but just stating it for the record). Among bylined articles in English you have articles like https://www.news.keralatv.in/santhwanam-2-launch-date/ (and 5-6 similar articles by the same media outlet, in English) ; in Malayalam, also bylined, this kind of things (not great journalism) https://malayalam.oneindia.com/entertainment/santhwanam-2-asianet-released-a-new-promo-video-goes-viral-here-is-how-fans-reacted-461819.html https://malayalam.samayam.com/tv/celebrity-news/actress-gopika-anil-says-that-no-one-from-first-part-is-acting-in-the-santhwanam-2/amp_articleshow/110149785.cms seem to show this is popular enough. The content of The Times of India non-bylined articles might be challenged so I won't even mention it (but I suppose you had a look). I had redirected this myself at some point, I think (I seem to remember I did at least!), but that was challenged too, apparently. There are a lot of adaptations of the Tamil (5, 6 ?) original and their mentions are regularly removed from the tables, so for me, navigation-wise, as this seems quite popular and given the basic facts (including popularity) are verifiable with various sources, either R or K are good. Also, a detail, the fact that it's Santhwanam 2 but not a real sequel, as it has different characters, makes a redirect to the Santhwanam not the best option. For me a Keep would help the reader more efficiently but I understand the current coverage is not of extremely high quality, hence the suggested compromise. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:57, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thanks for pointing out that NFILM doesn't apply — that was a silly error on my part! However, the same issue prevents the subject from meeting GNG, and the links you've shared here don't help in that regard, except maybe Samayam Malayalam. Looking at the about pages for OneIndia and Kerala TV shows that they have no editorial team, and the latter seems to be a blog run by one person. I think keeping would be out of reach here, but the target you've mentioned for a possible redirect sounds good to me. —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 22:21, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- It's not a film but a TV series, so, I don't mind you and other users judging it by NFILM standards, if you wish to do so (that could make sense, actually), but in general it's GNG that applies for TV series (WP:NTV being an essay, as I am sure you know, but just stating it for the record). Among bylined articles in English you have articles like https://www.news.keralatv.in/santhwanam-2-launch-date/ (and 5-6 similar articles by the same media outlet, in English) ; in Malayalam, also bylined, this kind of things (not great journalism) https://malayalam.oneindia.com/entertainment/santhwanam-2-asianet-released-a-new-promo-video-goes-viral-here-is-how-fans-reacted-461819.html https://malayalam.samayam.com/tv/celebrity-news/actress-gopika-anil-says-that-no-one-from-first-part-is-acting-in-the-santhwanam-2/amp_articleshow/110149785.cms seem to show this is popular enough. The content of The Times of India non-bylined articles might be challenged so I won't even mention it (but I suppose you had a look). I had redirected this myself at some point, I think (I seem to remember I did at least!), but that was challenged too, apparently. There are a lot of adaptations of the Tamil (5, 6 ?) original and their mentions are regularly removed from the tables, so for me, navigation-wise, as this seems quite popular and given the basic facts (including popularity) are verifiable with various sources, either R or K are good. Also, a detail, the fact that it's Santhwanam 2 but not a real sequel, as it has different characters, makes a redirect to the Santhwanam not the best option. For me a Keep would help the reader more efficiently but I understand the current coverage is not of extremely high quality, hence the suggested compromise. -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 21:57, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Mushy Yank: Could you point to the sources you believe have the most significant coverage so we can better evaluate the subject's suitability under NFILM? —TechnoSquirrel69 (sigh) 21:10, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Paul Boross (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Doesn't meet WP:CREATIVE with only minor roles in various TV and music. I can't find any sources getting close to discussing him. This is just the latest iteration in attempts to promote him as a speaker going back to 2014 (I've already removed that). SmartSE (talk) 08:07, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: No RS available which cover the topic significantly, to establish notability. Ratekreel (talk) 21:51, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Redirect - the subject is not notable for doing any of his various endeavors, except for Morris Minor and the Majors. I won’t be broken up if it’s outright deleted, but a redirect is a reasonable option. Bearian (talk) 19:24, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
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- The Volte (company) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP. Lots of paid PR, routine business news. scope_creepTalk 07:31, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete to establish the company's notability, as there are no significant independent, reliable sources demonstrating its impact or widespread recognition. Additionally, the content primarily reads as promotional, lacking the necessary depth or critical coverage required. --Mind-blowing blow (talk) 07:43, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. Couldn't find anything useful unfortunately. Alpha3031 (t • c) 12:20, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. I think the coverage is signicant, see The Australian and Forbes. What's more, the articles aren't just promoting it, but suggest it is offering a unique way of doing business. Therefore I'm satisfied that it meets WP:NCORP notability critieria. Spinifex&Sand (talk) 00:01, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
- Spinifex&Sand, the Forbes article is over 90% quotes from Olivier (or Oliver once, apparently). WP:ORGIND excludes sources with no independent content from contributing to WP:NCORP. Alpha3031 (t • c) 06:32, 30 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete: per nom, fails NCORP. C F A 💬 18:50, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
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The result was Withdrawn. Per reasonable request of User:Left guide. (non-admin closure) Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:29, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- List of Major League Baseball career Wins Above Replacement leaders (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Delete - I love sabermeterics, don't get me wrong, but WAR is such a multi-layered statistic that I think this list is actually giving the wrong idea and, dare I say, even be misleading to casual fans and curious readers by using overall bWAR as its criteria.
Just a VERY short summary: there are three different kinds of WAR, with three different formulae: fWAR (Fangraphs), WARP (Baseball Prospectus), and bWAR (Baseball Reference). Then that further has three divisions with different formulae for each: pitching WAR, defensive WAR, and offensive WAR.
The list is making it seem as if one WAR is considered better and more reliable when, in reality, bWAR's formulae are debatable, especially with regards to pitchers. E.g. Jim Palmer would fall a 100 positions if you used fWAR here - 68.5 bWAR... 56.6 fWAR. Sandy Koufax would be on this list with 50.8 WAR (54.5 pitching and -3.7 WAR for his terrible hitting) with fWAR compared to his 48.9 bWAR (53.1 pitching and -4.2 hitting). Just two examples to give the disparity. I imagine a few people on the list would not even be on it. Omnis Scientia (talk) 07:58, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep: passes WP:NLIST having been
discussed as a group or set by independent reliable sources
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Source assessment table:
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Yahoo Sports |
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Washington Post |
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Left guide (talk) 09:44, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Left guide, oh I know it is, and I agree that its notable, no question about it. WAR is well discussed in baseball coverage since it came into existance and there is an endless list of sources. But notability is not why I nominated the list.
- The list has no context of what WAR is, why Baseball Reference WAR is being used rather than Fangraphs WAR and does not differeniate between position player WAR and pitchers WAR which are, indeed, two different things. I just think its misleading. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:08, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: Thanks for the feedback; since we both undoubtedly agree the topic is notable, it seems that basically everything you describe can be rectified through normal editing and cleanup per WP:Deletion is not cleanup. This can be coordinated at the talk page or WT:MLB, or simply done yourself if you wish. May I ask you to consider withdrawing this nomination? Left guide (talk) 12:19, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Left guide, I'm not sure a few edits can clear it up but I'll be happy to try it out. So sure. Omnis Scientia (talk) 12:27, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Omnis Scientia: Thanks for the feedback; since we both undoubtedly agree the topic is notable, it seems that basically everything you describe can be rectified through normal editing and cleanup per WP:Deletion is not cleanup. This can be coordinated at the talk page or WT:MLB, or simply done yourself if you wish. May I ask you to consider withdrawing this nomination? Left guide (talk) 12:19, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- John Cooke (musician) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Lots of passing mentions for the man and an interview but nothing else. Fails WP:SIGCOV. scope_creepTalk 07:04, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Redirect to Venomous Concept, the one band for which he has been a consistent long-term member, and for which he is most often mentioned in the music media. Otherwise he is one of those pro working musicians who has filled in with various bands when needed and worked some session and solo projects, but remains little-covered in his own right. ---DOOMSDAYER520 (TALK|CONTRIBS) 13:35, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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lacks sufficient reliable sources to establish the bank's notability and significance in the financial sector Slarticlos (talk) 07:05, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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A paid, lame article Slarticlos (talk) 07:04, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment: Slarticlos, not disagreeing with your assessment of the current article state, but what is your assessment of the book chapter source identified by AusLondonder in the keep AfD discussion from 6 months ago? AllyD (talk) 02:04, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- Speedy Keep Per WP:SKCRIT due to the lack of a credible deletion rationale. If an article is lame, improve it. We would need a discussion of the sources identified in previous AfDs and why those do not establish notability. AusLondonder (talk) 02:15, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
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doesn't have enough reliable sources to prove that the brand is significant or notable in the ice cream market Slarticlos (talk) 07:03, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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Advertising, self-promotion, link to own website, The Economic Times link is broken Slarticlos (talk) 07:02, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Procedural keep No indication that the nominator has conducted a WP:BEFORE. They have nominated 5 articles for deletion in 5 minutes. Also WP:NEXIST, WP:AFDISNOTCLEANUP and WP:ITSNOTNEUTRAL. 2405:201:D002:319D:6CCF:BAC0:531C:5B50 (talk) 13:41, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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lacks enough reliable information showing that it is important or significant Slarticlos (talk) 07:01, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep it is often hard to find in depth coverage of national professional associations because they operate in a quality controlled walled garden. They don’t generate much chatter in the mainstream press and they own the specialist outlets. They’re much larger than the UK’s Royal Society for Public Health and probably more active. Mccapra (talk) 19:23, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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PROD removed with statement "Google/English language websearch is not good for Malayalam culture". If that is the case, why is it that Google Malayalam also yields nothing [28]. Changing the year parameter to today yields an unrelated music video of a similar name. Please find a review or two before keeping this. DareshMohan (talk) 06:23, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- If we can be sure this was released, with a solid source, I might support a redirect to List of Malayalam films of 2003 (or to Augustine's filmography?) because the cast is rather notable. But we have only IMDb and the other Db to prove it. Is that enough? -My, oh my! (Mushy Yank) 10:55, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. Fails WP:NFILM. Fails significant coverage WP:SIGCOV and WP:GNG. If anyone can find secondary independent reliable sources with significant coverage and two or more reviews from known critics, let me know and I will reconsider my vote. RangersRus (talk) 13:39, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. It is impossible to just do a general search to find sources due to the way sources are archived. Best to check the Sify [29], Indiainfo [30], and Keralatalkies [31] reviews. A quick ctrl-f finds nothing. DareshMohan (talk) 05:53, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
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The article doesn't meet the requirements of WP:V and WP:N. Frost 05:17, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. No case has been made why sourcing is insufficient. Cortador (talk) 05:28, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Claims like "the integrated design reduces gaps and corners" are unverified. Also, note the tone in the article, it's unencyclopedic. Frost 05:40, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- WP:DELETIONISNOTCLEANUP Cortador (talk) 06:43, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- There is no usable content in this article. Frost 07:00, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- WP:DELETIONISNOTCLEANUP Cortador (talk) 06:43, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Claims like "the integrated design reduces gaps and corners" are unverified. Also, note the tone in the article, it's unencyclopedic. Frost 05:40, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete or maybe a redirect to Stoves. There really isn't anything here that can be used. There are academic sources but they don't really add anything of real value to the article. If you google 集成灶 you'll get stoves. Dr vulpes (Talk) 08:02, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge, probably with Stoves but open to other suggestions. The problem is that the words in English mean different things. It appears that there is a level of consistency in China, but I don't have the ability to read local language sources to determine overall whether it has specific meaning there. But there is certainly use in other parts of the world which mean different things - for example whilst we are told that in China is means several different kitchen appliances in one unit, in other places it might just mean that individual appliances are "built in" to the overall kitchen design. I think at this stage the best option is to merge until it is clear that there is specific meaning shown in the third party sources. JMWt (talk) 10:10, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Yeah that was my problem as well. What I think it means, and this is a guess, is that it's a stove that also has an integrated vent. At least that's what I see when I google "集成灶" and go to images. Dr vulpes (Talk) 17:53, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Merge with Stove: seems like the best option (or whatever the "Stoves" articles above refer to). I can't find anything that describes this at length. Oaktree b (talk) 14:24, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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Unreferenced since 2006. No evidence of notability. Despite a comment saying "If ever it is decided that the notability of this topic cannot justify an article, then merge this article with the EROS article instead of deleting it", I don't actually see anything to merge as most of the article is dedicated to describing the concept of capability-based operating systems rather than about this one specifically. * Pppery * it has begun... 05:04, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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Fails WP:NACTOR, previously CSD A7. WP:TOOSOON - wait until Jones becomes notable. Prior versions draftified, WP:DRAFTIFY implies that this might not be unilaterally returned to Draft. Even so I suggest deletion. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 04:56, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Draftify and salt the mainspace : Fails both WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR. Jones lacks
significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows, stage performances, or other productions
. All of his roles are minor roles both in film and TV series. No significant coverage of him as an actor. This is considered to be WP:TOOSOON. — YoungForever(talk) 06:27, 3 October 2024 (UTC) - Note: This discussion has been included in the list of South Carolina-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 09:27, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for reviewing Dettric Jones' Wikipedia page. I understand and acknowledge the concerns raised regarding the page's compliance with Wikipedia's guidelines, specifically WP:GNG and WP:NACTOR.
- Although Dettric's role in films and TV series may be considered minor, Jones is still a public figure with a verifiable presence in the entertainment industry. credits include:
- - Ozark (Netflix, 2017)
- - Raising Dion (Netflix, 2022) - Season 2, Jacob
- - The Watcher (Netflix, 2022)
- I respectfully argue that the page should not be deleted solely based on the criteria mentioned. Wikipedia's guidelines also emphasize the importance of documenting emerging artists and public figures.
- Considering WP:TOOSOON, I propose:
- 1. Merging page with a list article (e.g., "List of American actors") or a relevant category.
- 2. Marking page for improvement rather than deletion.
- This will allow the page to remain while ensuring compliance with Wikipedia's guidelines.
- Thank you. AnonymousContent33 (talk) 14:39, 3 October 2024 (UTC) — AnonymousContent33 (talk • contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic. 🇺🇦 FiddleTimtrent FaddleTalk to me 🇺🇦 16:14, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- I must respectfully point out that the number of edits I've made outside of this topic is irrelevant to the validity of Dettric Jones' Wikipedia page.
- The focus should be on the Verifiability of Dettric's credits and existence as a public figure, as well as Compliance with Wikipedia's guidelines. AnonymousContent33 (talk) 19:34, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: One episode appearances and uncredited ones do not amount to notability here. Sourcing is also not coverage beyond confirmation of these roles. Long way from notability. SALT should be applied Oaktree b (talk) 14:26, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep/Mark for improvement: Even a single episode as a supporting role contributes significantly to a show. Supporting roles advance plotlines and character development. Jones has been casted in notable productions establishing himself in the industry.
- - WP:NACTOR: Criteria 1 (significant roles) is met, as supporting roles impact narrative.
- - WP:GNG: Verifiable credits establish notability.
- - Professional involvement in acclaimed series. AnonymousContent33 (talk) 20:14, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- An un-named person on screen is not what we're looking for, notability wise. This person has NOT met GNG, as we have no stories in reliable sources about them. Oaktree b (talk) 00:33, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
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No appearance of notability. QuietHere (talk | contributions) 05:11, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
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Delete per nom and WP:GNG. Lots of information here, but trying to verify any of it turns up crickets. Article was written by a 1-edit SPA apparently to promote a 2016 tour, and has remained essentialy unchanged ever since—except for adding even more promotional material, this time in support of a new venture involving the band's front men. StonyBrook babble 12:57, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- After considering Chubbles' comment below, and after adding those sources and others to the article, I am changing my !vote to weak keep per WP:BAND #11, which states Has been placed in rotation nationally by a major radio or music television network. The Pittsburgh City Paper and Post-Gazette mention the band's album 'having gotten some airplay in Europe' and 'was getting play in Western Europe'; perhaps we can give the benefit of the doubt as to whether the station or stations involved were major outlets in Europe—I did understand it to mean the UK and Ireland, so a large enough coverage area is involved. And while we don't exactly have the WP:3REFS necessary to satisfy the letter of the above guideline and WP:NCORP, at the very least we now have the promotional material removed, with the rest of the content backed up by multiple secondary sources. The Woodstock appearance does seem to be important, although I'm not well enough informed about these commemorational concerts. StonyBrook babble 04:59, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep. The promotional bloat of the article is lamentable, but that's fixable. The City Paper and Post-Gazette sources substantiate the band did international tours and got international radio airplay, which is sufficient to pass WP:MUSIC. Chubbles (talk) 13:52, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete fails WP:SUSTAINED and GNG. Public relations editing intentions are also rather conspicuous as mentioned in the original nomination statement. Graywalls (talk) 06:11, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment Interested editors may wish to compare the nominated revision with the current revision, which has just been stripped of nearly all of its content. Chubbles (talk) 17:09, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Visakhapatnam Metro (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Never actually took implementation stages. Politician dream. WP:TOOSOON. No developments from a very long time. Also this article says no metro to Visakhapatnam.- https://www.deccanchronicle.com/nation/politics/040821/no-vizag-vijayawada-metro-rail-for-now.html. Thewikizoomer (talk) 05:10, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Lots of speculations within the article as well. Thewikizoomer (talk) 05:11, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete much of this seems to be copied from a promotional brochure. A planned project can be notable but I don’t think we’ve reached that threshold. Mccapra (talk) 11:31, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep To support the WP:TOOSOON criteria, the user cited an article from 2021. However, recent developments in 2024 indicate that the topic has gained momentum again. It is just that the article has not been updated and lacks supervision in addressing promotional content. [32] [33] 456legendtalk 10:06, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Largely uncited and large amounts of original research. LibStar (talk) 15:32, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Navaratnalu (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Looks like a complete advertisement. Complete promotional, appears to be a political advertisement done in favour of a political party and its leader.
Looks like a pamphlet for the political party. Thewikizoomer (talk) 04:30, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment it documents a notable political initiative in Andhra Pradesh, India, which played a significant role in the 2019 state elections. The program, introduced by the YSR Congress Party, has had substantial media coverage and political impact, making it relevant and notable within the context of regional politics. --Mind-blowing blow (talk) 07:50, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete it is indeed an advertizemant for mr jagan Mohan Reddy 2402:8100:21EF:9051:0:0:3D9D:BAF6 (talk) 12:51, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment - Along with these promises, there should be a reality check on what has been accomplished and what has not. It’s important to keep a record of what a government pledges during an election and what it actually delivers after coming into power. I think there should an article for each term. RWILD✉ 02:50, 1 October 2024 (UTC)
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- DcVD (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article fails WP:GNG, I did WP:BEFORE and couldn't find anything of note about this. There are a few mentions about it in forums but nothing serious or useful. If someone finds sources for this please ping me because it will be seriously impressive if someone does. Dr vulpes (Talk) 03:57, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Per nom, I cannot find notability. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 12:18, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- delete per nom. i suggested in rfd that this article might have been useful, but its final word on the dcvd format is "it probably exists lmao" (and it cites this specific article, seemingly in this diff, as an example of flimsy research, which is really funny)... and also i guess the dreamcast junkyard is a blog, and thus not usable as a source in the first place cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 18:40, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Comment as noted in the RfD, given the era of the technology it is very likely that the majority of sources will be offline and (and still within copyright) so no amount of googling will find them. This should not be deleted without even an attempt to locate them. Thryduulf (talk) 11:14, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- It's unfortunate that an admin of all people would make such assumptions as "there was not even an attempt to locate print sources". I am unsure what would give you the impression that neither me nor cogsan did such a thing, it is de facto accusing us of incompetence.
- In fact I did trawl the Internet Archive and found zilch (besides, at least, other things whose acronym is DCVD but are not mentioned on Wikipedia). There really is hardly a mention of it anywhere. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 13:07, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- i'll give you this one; nothing i said here or in rfd suggested outright that i did the big research, but i did as early as in my first comment there, and found as much reliable info then as vulpes and zxcvbnm did now (which is to say that i found nothing). on the other hand, you said in rfd that you found some potentially reliable stuff within 2 minutes, but nothing came from that, so... can i see the sauce? cogsan (nag me) (stalk me) 14:40, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- This is an excellent point @Thryduulf, any ideas where I should start looking? I don't mind putting in the work but I will admit I don't really know where to start here. Dr vulpes (Talk) 17:07, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- @Dr vulpes Unfortunately I don't really either, technology magazines of the era may have something but as I don't read them now and didn't at the time that's just a guess. Patents (if the technology was patented or used others' patents, I don't know) would presumably give useful coverage with which to expand the article but may not count as secondary? If people write journal articles about this sort of technological development that could be another source, but again I don't know if they do. Based on Talk:Retrocomputing and Talk:Vintage computers, Wikipedia:WikiProject Computing seems to be the relevant project so folks there may be able to help more. Thryduulf (talk) 18:14, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- The Penny Hoarder (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Non-notable content farm containing primarily sponsored posts and affiliate links. See fine print "Advertiser Disclosure" on each page. History of possible COI editing. No significant coverage in independent reliable sources. Wikipedia:Notability_(web) Matt Fitzpatrick (talk) 03:20, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete The pre-2020 era this describes before it became SEO pink slime met GNG just fine, but in the last four years it's just become a standard content farm. Nate • (chatter) 20:20, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- GEMO (Skin Care Device) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NCORP. The company website, press releases, and industry award web pages are not sources from which the notability of a product can be determined. —Alalch E. 15:07, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep - It has considerable popularity in this niche market in China. [34] — Preceding unsigned comment added by Iuliusnanus (talk • contribs) 20:53, 25 September 2024 (UTC) — Note to closing admin: Iuliusnanus (talk • contribs) is the creator of the page that is the subject of this AfD.
- Promotional content. As a paid editor, you should be especially discerning of promotional and unusable sources. I presume that you are paid to write articles that will be kept, not deleted. If you cannot distinguish between usable and unusable sources, the articles you create will be deleted, and your clients will not be satisfied. —Alalch E. 21:44, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete based on the following source assessment:
- Official website.
- Extremely promotional news article.
- Press release.
- Some sort of design description written by this product's makers.
- Extremely short description similar to above.
- Another non-independent description of the product.
- None of these meet the requirements of the GNG. The link added by Iuliusnanus above is sigcov (independence unclear), but one source alone is not enough to demonstrate notability. Toadspike [Talk] 18:37, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Helen Donaldson (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Tagged for BLP sourcing issues since 2018. Not clear that the subject passes WP:GNG. 4meter4 (talk) 15:36, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Fails WP:MUSICBIO. Only the first Google news hit seems decent, but otherwise seems coverage mainly for namesakes. LibStar (talk) 23:44, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep. Satisfies WP:NACTOR with her stage roles [35], specifically: 1. touring with The Pirates of Penzance as Mabel [36] [37] [38] [39] [40] (multiple reviews at each of these stops). A recording of one of the shows was also released [41], the soundtrack of it won a 1995 ARIA Award. 2. touring with The Mikado as Yum Yum [42] [43]. 3. touring with H.M.S. Pinafore as Josephine [44] (not just the highlighted section) [45] [46] (recording also released). 4. touring with A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Forum as Philia [47] [48] "Forum Is Light Musical Theatre At Its Very Best", The Canberra Times, 2 April 1999 - Vincent, Jeremy (4 January 1999), "Revival revels in farce, not class", The Australian. She is the prime focus of articles Brown, Phil (23 July 2008), "Back to the start", Brisbane News and Kelly, Patricia (26 June 2004), "Family puts a song in Helen's well-travelled heart", Courier Mail. duffbeerforme (talk) 12:28, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Would you please cite the sources (and add the missing noteworthy facts) in the article itself? -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:27, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Duffbeerforme. -- Ssilvers (talk) 20:28, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Fails WP:MUSICBIO.181.197.42.215 (talk) 02:43, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep per Duffbeerforme; meets GNG. - SchroCat (talk) 05:22, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Keep - concurring with Duffbeerforme, Ssilvers and Schrocat. Tim riley talk 11:03, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- HOPE (band) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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I can find nothing to speak of to support the notability of this band, for which the cited sources seem to be scraping the bottom of some local punk rock scene barrel. BD2412 T 02:09, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Maratha Resurrection (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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The article lacks WP:NOTABILITY, with only a single source provided which only briefly mentions the term. There seems to be no significant usage of this term in the scholarly community at all, with close to no scholars using this term. PadFoot (talk) 14:35, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Comment It appears there is are scholar and book resources that mentions this event, so it may be supported by WP:RS. (click Scholar/Book link at the top of this AfD). Kcmastrpc (talk) 15:52, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- There are only two citations in scholar that mention such a term, one deals with paintings of early modern era India, and other deals with Vidarbha cotton, none of them are specialised histories regarding the subject. PadFoot (talk) 16:41, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Unsure. The first citation is cited incorrectly, never a good sign in an article. It doesn’t link to the first paragraph at all. Google Scholar throws up three publications using the phrase, and they’re all 2023 and 2024… so maybe it’s becoming more popular recently, but it doesn’t seem to be there yet. I’d love to know if there are Indian language sources using the equivalent phrase, which is translated here into English? But I don’t have the language skills to find out. So, on the one hand, the article as written doesn’t establish notability, but there seems to be sources out there which might… means I can’t decide between weak keep and weak delete, but tend towards weak delete unless someone steps in and finds some sources so we can be sure it’s not something the creator came up with himself through synth. Absurdum4242 (talk) 16:50, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Britannica is okay but per Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Perennial sources, secondary sources are preferable. If there’s only one secondary source shown, then for now I am okay with deleting the article, until notability is established. I can be persuaded from my vote if someone provides more sources using this term. Someguywhosbored (talk) 04:37, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep (or maybe merge) Notability for the term "Maratha Resurrection" is not an issue, as multiple articles discuss it in the context of Peshwa Madhav Rao, such as this [49]. If the historical facts are accurate, the term does not need specialized historical articles to validate its significance. A phenomenon's name can stand on its own merit, regardless of extensive historical analysis. Therefore, if the information presented is correct, I oppose deleting the article. Notability is notability; it is not solely defined by "specialized scholars." Scholars provide historical analysis, while any historical event can be labeled differently over time without distorting history, as long as the facts remain intact. If the historical facts here are wrong, then delete it. Otherwise-keep. Thanks.
- DangalOh (talk) 16:57, 27 September 2024 (UTC)
- @DangalOh, I think get what you mean to say here. The various battles mentioned in the article are notable, but the "Maratha resurrection" as a single event enveloping all these conflicts into a single one is not supported by many reliable sources. Such a term lacks notability and widespread usage in the scholarly community (see WP:HISTRS). A merger into another suitable article would be alright though. PadFoot (talk) 13:59, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- I understand it. If the series of events are absolutely unrelated and are being portrayed more like a synthesis, then it's a no. But if those events are related or depict a phenomenon that might not have been specifically termed as something like 'Maratha resurrection' by most of the WP:HISTRS, it might still merit inclusion. As logic suggests, WP:HISTRS is meant to establish or verify history. A term for a series of events (unless the events are entirely unrelated and someone is trying to make them seem connected) can be developed at any point in time. And yes, I do believe a standalone article is a bit too much. But I trust you—you will find a way to not completely remove this and find a good article (maybe the main one) to merge it into without compromising its integrity. The term might gain more traction in the future; maybe then people can discuss a standalone article. Thanks. DangalOh (talk) 15:27, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- @DangalOh, I think get what you mean to say here. The various battles mentioned in the article are notable, but the "Maratha resurrection" as a single event enveloping all these conflicts into a single one is not supported by many reliable sources. Such a term lacks notability and widespread usage in the scholarly community (see WP:HISTRS). A merger into another suitable article would be alright though. PadFoot (talk) 13:59, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Per nom, I don't think there's enough scholarly sources that properly refer to a "Maratha resurrection". The scholar search up bit wasn't really much per Padfoot's explanation. Noorullah (talk) 03:06, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Appears to have been canvassed here. Noorullah21 Notice. Lightburst (talk) 16:07, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I have added some sources. It is a significant evening. Other Indian kingdoms had thought Maratha empire was weakened a lot after the loss of Battle of Panipat on 1761, but Marathas regained territory up to Delhi in 1771 and Najibababad 1772 battle. That is very much notable. And also the exact term Maratha Resurrection was used in multiple sources. Though Marathas could not occupy up to Peshawar like before the Panipat battle, this was a significant territory away from their capital Poona. Crashed greek (talk) 08:41, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- The added source (snippet) only includes a brief mention of the term, without providing any explanations of the term. I'm not sure whether you understand WP:NOTABILITY. A simple scholar search will show that there are close to zero sources that use term "Maratha resurrection", clearly depicting that the term lacks notability in the scholarly community. PadFoot (talk) 13:43, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Merge There doesn't seem to be enough context or content for a standalone article, but it seems this could easily be merged into Maratha Empire as a sub-heading in the History section. Kcmastrpc (talk) 15:31, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: Unless I am missing something these individual talk page notices from the nominator (@PadFoot2008:) look like WP:CANVASSING. Both AirshipJungleman29 and Flemmish_Nietzsche previously !voted delete on one of the nominator's other AfD nominations and Noorullah just looks like someone the nominator knows.
- Lightburst (talk) 16:07, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Lightburst, sorry, I am new to AfDs, (this one is my first one). I wouldn't notify anyone else. So I can't notify people who often contribute to this field? PadFoot (talk) 01:58, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- @PadFoot2008: Always best to allow editors to find these through the projects- this AfD was posted in several. If you reach out to individuals it always has the appearance of bringing a like-minded editor to change consensus. I am sure others can explain better than I can. Also read the link WP:CANVASSING as it is nuanced. Lightburst (talk) 02:40, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Lightburst, Alright, thank you. PadFoot (talk) 07:06, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- @PadFoot2008: Always best to allow editors to find these through the projects- this AfD was posted in several. If you reach out to individuals it always has the appearance of bringing a like-minded editor to change consensus. I am sure others can explain better than I can. Also read the link WP:CANVASSING as it is nuanced. Lightburst (talk) 02:40, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Lightburst, sorry, I am new to AfDs, (this one is my first one). I wouldn't notify anyone else. So I can't notify people who often contribute to this field? PadFoot (talk) 01:58, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete Per DangalOh's admission,
But if those events are related or depict a phenomenon that might not have been specifically termed as something like 'Maratha resurrection' by most of the WP:HISTRS, it might still merit inclusion... The term might gain more traction in the future; maybe then people can discuss a standalone article.
As and when scholars will start using this term, we will swiftly create this article. TrangaBellam (talk) 09:40, 29 September 2024 (UTC)
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- The Natashas Project (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article doesn't meet notability per WP:ORG or WP:GNG and my searches have produced no significant coverage per WP:ORGDEPTH Demt1298 (talk) 02:21, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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- SouthSouthNorth (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:NORG. No in-depth coverage in independent, reliable sources. C F A 💬 01:42, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Ibrahim Agha (Algeria) (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Article sounds more like a book than a Wikipedia article. Henry (talk) 00:35, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep the subject is plainly notable. Some of the article needs to be rewritten and looks to me like a cooyvio anyway, though I can’t get the source to load. Mccapra (talk) 03:47, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- The "Hussein's reaction" section was translated directly from this page: https://web.archive.org/web/20130612123908/https://www.algerie-ancienne.com/Salon/Galib/8France/01expedit/17staoueli.htm I also checked the "Early life" section but did not find copying there. Other sections may also have copyright violations or close paraphrasing, but it's unlikely the entire article has been copied or translated directly here, Rjjiii (talk) 05:48, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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- 2019 African Entertainment Awards USA (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Sensational and routine coverages. Fails the inclusion criteria for events. Best, Reading Beans 00:14, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- I am bundling these two here per my nomination statement.
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- Vanessa Grellet (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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No significant coverage in secondary, independent sources outside of all the crypto churnalism. Accomplished businesswoman and executive, but there's nothing much of note (awards, research, influence, founding of a company). Mooonswimmer 16:39, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Hello and thank you for your feedback.
- I am quite surprised by this outcome, all the sources were found on Google, the most important ones in Google News. And I just found a new source on Forbes: https://www.forbes.fr/technologie/etat-des-lieux-des-nft-au-paris-blockchain-week-summit
- Vanessa Grellet has appeared in 3 notable French media: La Tribune, BFM Business, and Le Monde Informatique, as well as in the Wall Street Journal and Forbes. She has also contributed to a paper for the World Economic Forum. I thought that these were notable primary and secondary independent sources. Your help would be appreciated in order to improve the article. Crystalcoin (talk) 21:53, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- The Forbes source you linked to has only one mention of Vanessa Grellet. Translated to English:
- Between pure speculation and truly disruptive technology, NFTs appeal to a wide range of profiles. The “NFT Panel: How NFT funds are taking advantage of an emerging market” conference presented how NFT funds are approaching this market. Renowned panelists Julien Bouteloup, founder Blackpool Finance, James WO, CEO-founder DFG, Drew Austin, Redbeard Ventures and Vanessa Grellet, Coinfound explained their interest in these technologies.
- Although it's a generally reliable source when the articles are written by Forbes staff, that is far from significant coverage, which is necessary to demonstrate the notability of a subject. It's a passing mention. It doesn't develop on why Grellet is a renowned panelist. Do you have any sources covering her or her work in-depth? That's what would help demonstrate that she is indeed notable. We'd need at least two or three sources. Mooonswimmer 22:49, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
- Hey, thanks for your answer. Vanessa Grellet contributed to a World Economic Forum paper in 2021.
- I don't think this organization would have invited her if she wasn't a renowned panelist.
- https://www3.weforum.org/docs/WEF_Digital_Currency_Governance_Consortium_2021.pdf
- She has two other interviews in the main economical medias in France: in La Tribune (https://www.latribune.fr/entreprises-finance/banques-finance/les-bourses-traditionnelles-vont-s-interesser-aux-crypto-actifs-et-vice-versa-vanessa-grellet-consensys-817978.html) and a video one at the Paris Blockchain Week with BFM TV (https://www.bfmtv.com/economie/replay-emissions/tech-and-co/vanessa-grellet-coinfund-coinfund-est-un-fonds-d-investissement-specialise-dans-le-web3-12-04_VN-202204120691.html), one of the biggest blockchain events in Europe. Those are not PR for sure, I can agree that the one on Le Monde Informatique looks more like a PR (https://www.lemondeinformatique.fr/actualites/lire-aglae-ventures-va-lancer-un-fonds-de-100-meteuro-dedie-au-web3-87642.html).
- She is also mentioned in The Wall Street Journal :
- https://www.wsj.com/articles/arche-capital-to-raise-100-million-debut-fund-amid-crypto-comeback-b7713428 Crystalcoin (talk) 09:41, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- The Forbes source you linked to has only one mention of Vanessa Grellet. Translated to English:
- Comment: Source 2 is a RS, but it's an interview with this person where they give advice on financial subjects. Rest of the sourcing is PR items for this or that financial venture. Oaktree b (talk) 01:05, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Just not enough coverage to show notability. A French Gsearch limited to .fr sites [50] only brings up PR items. There isn't enough to show notability. She's mentioned here [51], but it's only a brief paragraph discussing other things. Oaktree b (talk) 01:07, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- French wiki article has been tagged for promotion and tagged for notability concerns, but they let it run for a year before discussing deletion (which is, strange, but their house, their rules). Sources in the French article are largely these PR items or similar to those used in the En wiki article. I do find it odd that there are no Fr sources used on the Fr wiki article, about a person from France. Oaktree b (talk) 01:17, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Sorry but what you are saying is not true.
- In the French Google search, the first link is her profile on the French government's public investment bank called BPI (Banque Publique d'Investissement): https://big.bpifrance.fr/fr/speaker/65009755-7355-ef11-991a-6045bd954cb8/vanessa-grellet
- On page 2, there is also on page an official paper from the French Ministry of Economy in collaboration with the French Tech mentioning Vanessa Grellet: https://www.tresor.economie.gouv.fr/Articles/71361bf0-8d26-443c-9572-5c53955c1aa9/files/564c4897-e4b9-44f1-938a-93d7e3b016f2
- Again, why would the French Government ask a non-relevant person to talk about a specific subject? Crystalcoin (talk) 09:48, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- We need sources that talk about her; she is important but you need sourcing. Neither of these is about her, they just confirm she appeared at xyz event. Oaktree b (talk) 12:11, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Thank you for your answer, I've found a few reliable sources like Forbes and the Financial Times and I have edited the article. Let me know if you see any other improvement. Crystalcoin (talk) 17:06, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- We need sources that talk about her; she is important but you need sourcing. Neither of these is about her, they just confirm she appeared at xyz event. Oaktree b (talk) 12:11, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Cyprus–Saudi Arabia relations (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Previously deleted under looser notability standards at AfD in 2009. Not every country A and country B combination is notable. Very poorly sourced, no secondary sources at all. Contains wild claims such as "political relations are close due to similarities between the 2 countries on historical, geographical and economical issues." AusLondonder (talk) 09:16, 11 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete Article is based on 2 sources, 1 of which is primary. Fails GNG. LibStar (talk) 11:45, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep Added more sources and encyclopedic context. Bilateral relations between two nations should not be considered irrelevant, and without notoriety, the two countries have mutual cooperation agreements, and like all articles of embassies, consulates and diplomatic relations with the exception of a diplomat Ghirmai Ghebremariam, who opened a query of deletion because it does not meet expectations, the other previous ones could have relevance in the future, and if they should be maintained and improved, not redirected or merged, much less eliminated. Alon9393 (talk) 21:21, 12 September 2024 (UTC)
- Note: Indefinitely blocked for disruptive behaviour. Geschichte (talk) 05:08, 16 September 2024 (UTC)
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- DeletePer lack of sigcov, in particular independent sources which discuss this topic directly.181.197.42.150 (talk) 04:01, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment. This looks a bit like a WP:SOCK of banned Alon9393 (talk · contribs · deleted contribs · nuke contribs · logs · filter log · block user · block log). The IP's first edit was to Víctor Roqueme Quiñonez which Alon created, and then the IP suddenly appeared in AFD discussions of pages that Alon had been involved in, those being Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Kfir Tsafrir and this discussion. I don't know why the IP gave different opinions in the two AFDs though. Geschichte (talk) 08:50, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
- Weak keep. The sources in the article come close to showing sigcov, especially for a tiny country like Cyprus. Looking up the “Cyprus chamber forum in Riyadh”, I also found this [52]. Looking up the Saudi stance on the division of Cyprus, I found this (extremely biased) paper [53], which is definitely sigcov and argues that Saudi supports Turkey in the dispute (contradicting this article). On the other hand, this news report [54] suggests that Saudi supports Cyprus, not Turkey. The truth is probably a complicated mess. And this [55] suggests an electrical connection (extremely unlikely to happen, but it’s still coverage).
- However, despite the coverage, I am not very confident that this article should be kept, since it has very little content that is both notable/DUE and verifiable. Diplomats meeting each other is usually not important enough for inclusion in an article, even if it generates newswire reports (like source 3). Worse, large parts of the article are made-up fluff (like the Cyprus dispute section). This might be a good case for a TNT, I’m not sure. Toadspike [Talk] 09:54, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. insufficient coverage and no notoriety encyclopedia. 181.197.42.215 (talk) 20:10, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Verkine Karakashian (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Fails WP:SIGCOV. 4meter4 (talk) 16:45, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete. No refs. If any coverage of this person ever surfaces, it would take exactly 10 minutes to write a better article. -- Ssilvers (talk) 19:35, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: There is a book reference in the article. I would suggest to keep the article, unless someone actually provided an assessment of its coverage. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 20:14, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @TheJoyfulTentmaker That is not a valid policy based keep vote. WP:SIGCOV requires multiple sources with independent significant coverage, which we generally interpret at AFD is a minimum of three sources. One book source, no matter how in-depth does not meet our notability guidelines.4meter4 (talk) 20:39, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- I kindly disagree, a single book may indicate existence of more sources. Even without references, deletion nominators are expected to do a good faith WP:BEFORE: to check Google, Google Books, Google Scholar, and Wikipedia Library if possible. AfD is not a place to urge people to fix unreferenced articles. Nomination must come only after there are good indicators that the subject is not notable, regardless of the state of the article; as stated in WP:NEXIST. Sorry for repeating these in multiple nominations of yours, but there are not enough people watching these nominations about niche topics like this one, and I honestly believe it will be a loss for the encyclopedia if these are prematurely deleted. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 21:40, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @CeeGee I think you created the article, pinging just in case you were not notified. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 21:53, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- We need other sources, suggesting that they exist isn't helpful Oaktree b (talk) 23:53, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @TheJoyfulTentmaker You seem to be misinterpreting policy language. WP:SIGCOV requires multiple sources as a non-negotiable criteria for all wikipedia articles. It's a must and its policy. Period. WP:NEXIST requires people voting to keep articles to produce multiple sources at the time of making a keep argument at an AFD. Asserting there are sources through guesswork is not following NEXIST; nor is arguing for keep based on a book you personally have not seen. Providing sources with url links or the names, publication dates, and pages of specific sources that you personally have looked at is following NEXIST. As for me, I looked at several standard opera reference works, including a Russian language music encyclopedia and found nothing on this person. My attempt at BEFORE may not be perfect but please WP:AGF. Best.4meter4 (talk) 00:52, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- I suggest you re-read WP:SIGCOV because it doesn't say what you think it does. The immediate subsection doesn't mention the number of sources but a bit further it says
"Sources" should be secondary sources, as those provide the most objective evidence of notability. There is no fixed number of sources required since sources vary in quality and depth of coverage, but multiple sources are generally expected.
Multiple sources are not a "must" and the requirement is not "policy" (our notability documents relate to guidance rather than policy). Thincat (talk) 10:49, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- I suggest you re-read WP:SIGCOV because it doesn't say what you think it does. The immediate subsection doesn't mention the number of sources but a bit further it says
- @TheJoyfulTentmaker You seem to be misinterpreting policy language. WP:SIGCOV requires multiple sources as a non-negotiable criteria for all wikipedia articles. It's a must and its policy. Period. WP:NEXIST requires people voting to keep articles to produce multiple sources at the time of making a keep argument at an AFD. Asserting there are sources through guesswork is not following NEXIST; nor is arguing for keep based on a book you personally have not seen. Providing sources with url links or the names, publication dates, and pages of specific sources that you personally have looked at is following NEXIST. As for me, I looked at several standard opera reference works, including a Russian language music encyclopedia and found nothing on this person. My attempt at BEFORE may not be perfect but please WP:AGF. Best.4meter4 (talk) 00:52, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- I kindly disagree, a single book may indicate existence of more sources. Even without references, deletion nominators are expected to do a good faith WP:BEFORE: to check Google, Google Books, Google Scholar, and Wikipedia Library if possible. AfD is not a place to urge people to fix unreferenced articles. Nomination must come only after there are good indicators that the subject is not notable, regardless of the state of the article; as stated in WP:NEXIST. Sorry for repeating these in multiple nominations of yours, but there are not enough people watching these nominations about niche topics like this one, and I honestly believe it will be a loss for the encyclopedia if these are prematurely deleted. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 21:40, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @TheJoyfulTentmaker That is not a valid policy based keep vote. WP:SIGCOV requires multiple sources with independent significant coverage, which we generally interpret at AFD is a minimum of three sources. One book source, no matter how in-depth does not meet our notability guidelines.4meter4 (talk) 20:39, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete: Well, this source mentions this person [56], but that's all I can find. I don't think we have enough sourcing. Oaktree b (talk) 23:56, 18 September 2024 (UTC)
- @Oaktree b Just a note: during the period she was active, The Ottoman Empire used the Arabic writing system. So search is not trivial. Even modern sources include various different spellings of her name. Trying the modern Turkish spelling Verkine Karakaşyan, I can easily find at least one journal paper. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 00:11, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Also, I can only see a short segment from the Google Books preview, but the book you linked might have a significant coverage (there are three search hits in separate places of the book). Here is the the second one, page 67: "... Verkine Karakashian read his poem “Freedom” and moved the audience so deeply that the ceremony was repeated for several nights in a row. After this incident, gradually more young girls showed the courage to go onstage and break the ...". Seems there is more before and after this passage, and this itself probably has a citation in the book; so if anyone has access to this book it would be really helpful if you could check. Separately, I added two more sources to the article and found the ISBN number of the book, referenced by CeeGee, who created the article. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 02:52, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: The Armenian wiki has some links, but I'm not in a position to say if they're RS or not. Oaktree b (talk) 00:19, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
Delete Clearly not notable Pallikari ap' ta Sfakia 17:20, 19 September 2024 (UTC)struck confirmed blocked sockpuppet, Atlantic306 (talk) 22:16, 3 October 2024 (UTC)- Note: This discussion has been included in the list of History-related deletion discussions. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 20:22, 19 September 2024 (UTC)
- Comment: The sourcing is improved, now we have 6 references (one thanks to @Oaktree b's Armenian Wikipedia pointer), and hopefully notability concerns are now reduced. Also, I'm curious about the opinions @Basak and @Buidhe, who are experienced editors with contributions related to Ottoman Armenians on the English or the Turkish Wikipedia. TheJoyfulTentmaker (talk) 01:25, 21 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep: Covered by several additional Turkish sources [57][58] Additional Armenian sources [59][60] The main ref in the Armenian article is the Armenian Soviet Encyclopedia. Aintabli (talk) 03:31, 22 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep I see that new relevant sources were added since the beginning of this discussion, therefore to me it is clear that the article should be kept. Of course, it’s possible to add more sources and improve the article. For example here, it’is possible to learn what were the important roles she played in her years at Güllü Agop Company and in Benliyan Operet Company: Women in Ottoman theater life — Preceding unsigned comment added by Basak (talk • contribs) 06:28, 24 September 2024 (UTC) --Basak (talk) 06:38, 24 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Keep as per WP:HEY as the article has been significantly improved since nomination with references including an encyclopaedia and a scholarly journal, and others, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 22:19, 3 October 2024 (UTC)
- Deolane Bezerra (edit | talk | history | protect | delete | links | watch | logs | views) – (View AfD | edits since nomination)
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Refs fail WP:SIRS. Possibly notable for Operation Integration, but that would mean just WP:BIO1E, so fails WP:BIO. - UtherSRG (talk) 21:45, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Delete – Per WP:RECENTISM. There is nothing notable about her, other than being investigated for a crime. Svartner (talk) 00:03, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
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- I only created a stub so others could expand. The original article has 66 sources. It's not just a crime, she has a lot more to add. At least draftify again so I can work it a little more. Web-julio (talk) 03:14, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Would this be your !vote to keep or draftify? Draft space is indeed the right place to work on an article when it is currently lacking enough sources. Please take this knowledge to your future self when working on other drafts. I agree that returning the article to draft is an acceptable alternative to deletion. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:50, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- I only created a stub so others could expand. The original article has 66 sources. It's not just a crime, she has a lot more to add. At least draftify again so I can work it a little more. Web-julio (talk) 03:14, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Draftify per above discussion. This is a case of WP: BITE. Bearian (talk) 18:57, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- Keep she is clearly notable for more than just her recent legal issues; see pt:Deolane Bezerra. Skyshiftertalk 12:49, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
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- I'm not opposed to draftify. Svartner (talk) 02:32, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- I stand by drafting as WP:ATD. - UtherSRG (talk) 11:01, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- I don't see why draftication would be needed considering the article's current state. It clearly shows notability and seems to be in good shape for mainspace. Skyshiftertalk 11:15, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
- What about that @Bearian @UtherSRG @Svartner Web-julio (talk) 02:29, 4 October 2024 (UTC)
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BLP supported by two interviews and a 404 link. No claim of notability. Mccapra (talk) 22:30, 25 September 2024 (UTC)
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- Move to draft - arabic sources exist. Plus a dead link doesn't mean that it wasn't a working source before Abo Yemen✉ 05:11, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- hi if sources exist you can add them in the next few days without needing to draftify. Mccapra (talk) 08:13, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- oh okay i will. Abo Yemen✉ 12:46, 28 September 2024 (UTC)
- hi if sources exist you can add them in the next few days without needing to draftify. Mccapra (talk) 08:13, 26 September 2024 (UTC)
- Delete. The sources don't support notability under WP:GNG, WP:NBIO. Dclemens1971 (talk) 21:12, 2 October 2024 (UTC)
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- Draft as per @Abo Yemen so they can have time to find arabic sources. As it stands now I would vote delete. But I really hope Abo can save this article, let me know if there is anything I can do to help! Dr vulpes (Talk) 06:12, 3 October 2024 (UTC)